(Cosmetic Effect) Improve Scream of Pain!

Schremba · 10-15-2009, 08:22 PM

I got inspired to do this by this topic and this comment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

zzz.. If you really want to make Scream of Pain hit invis unit, than you should change the visual effect first.

And of course because seeing Scream of Pain is a real pain, the graphic is really horrible.

So I decided to improve the Graphic, to make it look cool and unique. Don't forget, it still only hits visible units.
Take a look:

It uses

Code:

Units\NightElf\Wisp\WispExplode.mdl

tinted 0 25 255, 375% animation speed and 200%/230%/245%/260% of normal size.

When the targets take damage,

Code:

Abilities\Weapons\BlackKeeperMissile\BlackKeeperMissile.mdl

and

Code:

Abilities\Weapons\MurgulMagicMissile\MurgulMagicMissile.mdl

death animation is played.

Last, but not least, when casting the skill, BansheeGhostYesAttack2 is played, with 127 volume and 1.20 pitch for the badass Scream feeling.
You maybe ask why not the BansheeDeath sound. I think this one fits better and Banshee sound could fit better to ulti.

I also added a testmap for those 99.999% of you which can't imagine it from my description^^

KenpachiSlardar · 10-15-2009, 08:44 PM

t up

TT_VbFF · 10-15-2009, 09:50 PM

nice, but it looks like the scream is coming out slightly before she lifts her head. maybe you could make it wait .05-.1 seconds before the graphic appears although this doesn't really matter with animation canceling.

NoThlnG · 10-16-2009, 01:34 AM

Too white? Should more represent the pain....

Quiesce · 10-16-2009, 01:59 AM

T-Up

DefineNormal · 10-16-2009, 02:17 AM

T-Up!

i.am.hybrid · 10-16-2009, 02:45 AM

Looks similar to Ezalor's Blind. Not sure about this...

Ez_Mystery · 10-16-2009, 04:06 AM

add a sound effect too, so it will be more like screaming

Foede · 10-16-2009, 04:22 AM

Although a bit similar to Eza's blinding light and CM's nova, it just looks too damn good to T-D just for that. We can always give it some other effect to make it more different.

T-Up

InfestedMaiden · 10-16-2009, 05:01 AM

Awesome man, T-UP!

Necro · 10-16-2009, 07:40 AM

Tested it, but I don't think it fits current SoP. T-down, give it to something else (it's pretty good).

Flaming_Inferno · 10-16-2009, 08:13 AM

Looks cool. T-Up

Schremba · 10-16-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

add a sound effect too, so it will be more like screaming

I already did, can't you read? Just check the map out.

Quote:

Too white? Should more represent the pain....

It looks less white ingame. It has a purple/tealish look, thats why i chose the damage animation.

Quote:

Tested it, but I don't think it fits current SoP. T-down, give it to something else (it's pretty good).

Ok, I just thought current animation is kinda lame and tried only ingame models for the pulse. But thanks for commenting.

Thanks to all T-uppers and supporters.

Ez_Mystery · 10-16-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schremba

I already did, can't you read? Just check the map out.

oops, didn't notice
checked the map, and its good

anyway, why does it only hits visible units? invisible units can hear scream too

Schremba · 10-16-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

oops, didn't notice
checked the map, and its good
anyway, why does it only hits visible units? invisible units can hear scream too

I know, but this is only a cosmetic change. Suggesting hitting invis units would end up in remake suggestion. But maybe with another graphic SoP will be remaked by IceFrog to automatically hit invis units.

Shatterman · 10-16-2009, 12:37 PM

definitley better than current one t-up! i dont think the sound is screamish enough. look for some female death sounds, they listen more like a scream. checking some sounds right now...

EDIT:
Check banshees death sound

Schremba · 10-16-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

definitley better than current one t-up! i dont think the sound is screamish enough. look for some female death sounds, they listen more like a scream. checking some sounds right now...

I already looked before suggesting. I ALWAYS think about my suggestions for some time before posting them. All in all I only found 3 fitting sounds. Most deathsound have an unfitting corpse-dropping-on-ground-sound included. The 3 best were Suggested, BanheeDeath (like I said, it sounds stronger but would be better for Ulti), and Lanaya's Death sound with a high pitch.

Shatterman · 10-16-2009, 12:53 PM

i dont doubt you thought about your suggestion but sometimes hearing different opinions improves the overall result. I think for the ultimate would the bansheeghost yes sound played multiple times (not one after one but somehow fading into each other).

EDIT:
fail. thought about krobe ulti

ZΣD · 10-16-2009, 01:04 PM

Very nice,T-up

Schremba · 10-16-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

i dont doubt you thought about your suggestion but sometimes hearing different opinions improves the overall result. I think for the ultimate would the bansheeghost yes sound played multiple times (not one after one but somehow fading into each other).

EDIT:
fail. thought about krobe ulti

Yeah, np^^. But did you find a better sound? I used this sound especially because the other 2 I mentioned are already used (of course when Krob and Lanaya are dieing) and I really enjoy the BansheeGhost soundset. Its kinda spooky. Also, the sound is nearly instand.

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Shatterman Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,216	Re: (Cosmetic Effect) Improve Scream of Pain! definitley better than current one t-up! i dont think the sound is screamish enough. look for some female death sounds, they listen more like a scream. checking some sounds right now... EDIT: Check banshees death sound

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Shatterman Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,216	Re: (Cosmetic Effect) Improve Scream of Pain! i dont doubt you thought about your suggestion but sometimes hearing different opinions improves the overall result. I think for the ultimate would the bansheeghost yes sound played multiple times (not one after one but somehow fading into each other). EDIT: fail. thought about krobe ulti

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