Defense

[YajirobeFromDC]

With defence being so critical in DotA 1, the greatest defensive minded team DK will definitely make this tournament interesting.

I'm looking forward to watching a great defender DK.Super play at mid.

Maybe he can bring back a bit of defensive laning? The fire of defensive laning has certainly not burned out yet. With Super playing in this tournament, I'm very excited to watch him break the boundaries of a hindered defence and show the world how to defend in lane.

[The Observer]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

The point of entering a tournament is to win. Defence is usually the key to victory. I hope a team going into the International will be able to find methods of defence.

Defensive Laning is extremely important. Spatial defending/Shell Defending/Risk defending. I hope teams use that in the tournament.

Yeah and they lost cause the other teams weren't using "defense" and were obviously shutting down those chinese crackhouses hidden at the neutral camps.

Also, why not post a video/replay of these defenses in action? It's all plain theorycrafting and/or bullshit if it's simply on paper. If it was that effective, people would be doing it and giving you some t-ups already, but no. I wonder why?

[Facebook]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

The point of entering a tournament is to win. Defence is usually the key to victory. I hope a team going into the International will be able to find methods of defence.

Defensive Laning is extremely important. Spatial defending/Shell Defending/Risk defending. I hope teams use that in the tournament.

Your first sentence, my reply?, it depends, you know that entering a tournament is not always winning, but sometimes, fun. Now the second one is not always defence, defence is always there when you need them, but unlike the fact that it's always used.

Moar trollz.

[Sentry_ward]

Nobody cares about defensive laning except you and your multiple personalities
Defensive laning doesn't even exist, it's a shitty term you made up to troll,like the idiot you are

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by The Observer

Yeah and they lost cause the other teams weren't using "defense" and were obviously shutting down those chinese crackhouses hidden at the neutral camps.

Also, why not post a video/replay of these defenses in action? It's all plain theorycrafting and/or bullshit if it's simply on paper. If it was that effective, people would be doing it and giving you some t-ups already, but no. I wonder why?

With DK being the best defensive team in this tournament, I'm very anxious to see Super use his defensive laning at mid.

[Sentry_ward]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

With DK being the best defensive team in this tournament, I'm very anxious to see Super use his defensive laning at mid.

Guess what?
The international 2 is 5v5!
Which means not for fags that can only play with their own rules

[YajirobeFromDC]

Super plays a style I admit. Defending very well, controlling the lane and opponents. I sincerely hope he does not adapt to the offensive metagame we're seeing atm. I really want to see him defend in DotA 2 just like he's been doing in DotA 1. It'd be a great sight to see.

[The Observer]

Let me take the place of Yajirobe for once.

So guys, anyone wants to talk about defensive laning?

Let's go back and cherish the moments where DotA 1 is very defensive and how annoyed I am that Icefrog changed DotA 2 by making it less defensive than before.

Oh, and Super is very good with his defensive laning, I think I might have influenced his greatness. Also, kuroky agrees with me! I wish he mentioned my name somewhere along the lines of his interview so that people would acknowledge me. Oh, and have I told you guys that I'm "globally recognized"? No? Well, I am!

[Claire Farron]

Originally Posted by Facebook

The same as what happened at TI1. Except that new heroes emerges.

Edit: WAIT A SECOND THAT IS 5V5 GAME, I THOUGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 1V1 DEFENSE

His mentality is a little imbalance now. Suddenly go for 1v1 and then 5v5.

[YajirobeFromDC]

Originally Posted by The Observer

Let me take the place of Yajirobe for once.

So guys, anyone wants to talk about defensive laning?

Let's go back and cherish the moments where DotA 1 is very defensive and how annoyed I am that Icefrog changed DotA 2 by making it less defensive than before.

Defence is key in lane. I hope Super utilizes it to perfection in TI2. I have some things to learn also.

[Sentry_ward]

Ah good, less "we" and more "I"
Nobody gives a shit whether they defend or not,only you but since you're a nobody my sentence is quite accurate

Defense is the key for a busted door that would open with a single kick

[YajirobeFromDC]

With more and more people complaining about the laning issues, I'm sure he will change it as soon as possible. We as a community have a responsibility to tell Icefrog about the wrongs in his game.

I sure hope Icefrog does something as soon as possible. The laning problems should be addressed with great haste. I as an individual do not have problem speaking out on injustice.

I really really hope Icefrog hears the pleas of the defensive minded players and finds a good balance between offensive and defensive laning.

[Sentry_ward]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

With more and more people complaining about the laning issues, I'm sure he will change it as soon as possible. We as a community have a responsibility to tell Icefrog about the wrongs in his game.

I sure hope Icefrog does something as soon as possible.

Nobody is complaining about nonexistant issues, only a faggot who can't do anything other than lane AKA you

[Claire Farron]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

With more and more people complaining about the laning issues, I'm sure he will change it as soon as possible. We as a community have a responsibility to tell Icefrog about the wrongs in his game.

I sure hope Icefrog does something as soon as possible. The laning problems should be corrupted with great haste. I as an individual do not have problem speaking out on injustice.

I really really hope Icefrog hears the pleas of the defensive minded players and finds a good balance between offensive and defensive laning.

Nobody is complaining about the laning issues.

[YajirobeFromDC]

Kuroky shares the same feelings. I just want to see how many people on the forum agrees with Kuroky and I. Let us debate and speak of defensive/offensive laning.

[Draguuro-Manchi]

Ah yes! I agree fully to what this young lad has to say!

I do admit that the tides of war is fully dependent on who has the better defense between the two forces battling for supremacy! As what an old proverb says,

"He who is well prepared has already won half of the battle."

We should teach these new recruits a thing or two about "Structural Prioritization" in where the Watchtower is the most important unit in your line of defense. No one should neglect such a unit and should, at all times, keep an eye on one. It determines half of the battle as to how many of said structures you have left. Next would be "Mechanical Prioritization" in where the wagons of war should always be protected for it serves as your "gatecrashers" that crumbles the walls of the enemies.

I do love to continue with this prattle, but my general calls to me. I will come back after we've settled our current dilemma.

[Facebook]

Originally Posted by Draguuro-Manchi

Ah yes! I agree fully to what this young lad has to say!

I do admit that the tides of war is fully dependent on who has the better defense between the two forces battling for supremacy! As what an old proverb says,

"He who is well prepared has already won half of the battle."

We should teach these new recruits a thing or two about "Structural Prioritization" in where the Watchtower is the most important unit in your line of defense. No one should neglect such a unit and should, at all times, keep an eye on one. It determines half of the battle as to how many of said structures you have left. Next would be "Mechanical Prioritization" in where the wagons of war should always be protected for it serves as your "gatecrashers" that crumbles the walls of the enemies.

I do love to continue with this prattle, but my general calls to me. I will come back after we've settled our current dilemma.

Lol what.

We are in Dota dynasty, not in Ming dynasty, young bushido.

[Claire Farron]

Originally Posted by Facebook

Lol what.

We are in Dota dynasty, not in Ming dynasty, young bushido.

Someone has been poisoned by YajirobeFromDC.
At first, Sport.
Now, China dynasty?

[hANDoFbLOOD]

Originally Posted by YajirobeFromDC

We as a community have a responsibility to tell Icefrog about the wrongs in his game.

We have the dev forum for that! If you keep continuing to post here instead of there, it's sure that you're nothing but a troll.

[Draguuro-Manchi]

Ah yes, I have now settled our current dilemma! It was about someone complaining about the lack of "brute force" our army has. I mean, we follow the strict rules of "Defensive Prioritization" and we only call out to those that needs tending.

Archery Prioritization comes first. For one, they are those that do damage from a decent distance, and with proper placement, they can obliterate the enemy forces one at a time at impressive speeds, unlike battles prioritizing melee combatants in where they hoggle up most of the land area that their swords literally clash with in one another. This is a problem that should not occur in a real battle, and a real battle would come off soon enough.