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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Core Items Extension Items In a pushing game or If you have an advantage over enemy - Versus an AoE team - If you want to be a Pusher or are against fragile teams - Physical heroes can be countered with - Brief Gameplay
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![]() Hoof Stomp Slams the ground, stunning and damaging nearby enemy land units. Notes • Damage type: magic |
![]() Double Edge The Centaur summons a tremendous amount of inner strength and releases a very powerful attack. It can only be done at melee range, and it damages both the Warchief and the enemy unit. Notes • Damage type: magic (both on the target and the Warchief). • It has 150 range. • Centaur Warchief cannot kill himself with this skill. • Double Edge interrupts channeling spells and items. |
![]() Return The Centaur Warchief immediately counters every attack against him with a swift strike. Notes • Damage type: physical • Return causes damage when the enemy begins an attack, not when their attack hits. • This ability damages anything that attacks the Warchief, including towers. |
![]() Great Fortitude The Centaur Warchief's mammoth body is capable of absorbing great amounts of punishment. Notes • N/A |
Starting Items Buy Magic Stick as first item if you are in a game full of spammer. Tango and Salve to deal with harassment and Double Edge. Quelling Blade if you need to rush Blink Dagger and against easy lane so you don’t need early stats to survive. Spend the rest of your item to GG Branch since you doesn't need any mana (Mantle or Clarity) as well as the needs to build a Bracer (Gauntlet or Circlet) and they are so ridiculously cost effective |
Core Items Using Double Edge often leave you with red HP that can be lethal if you engaging two enemies. Magic Wand will fix that with its imbalance burst heal. Double Edge deals magical damage to the enemy and yourself so Hood of Defiance is a logical reason to reduce DE impact on us. And since you are an initiator, you will often be focused in team battles, so magic resistance will save your ass a lot. Boots of Speed is self-explanatory Stomp has a very small radius. That's what Blink Dagger for, as well as chasing, escaping, everything. After reading some forum member's comment and then testing it myself, I change my mind about Blademail. Blademail cooldown is really imba. 5 seconds of invulnerable that also a super counter for AoE skills is just plain gay. Combined with your high HP, this item allow you to survive longer to spam your Stomp and Double Edge over and over again making you a threat so the opposite team can't ignore your presence in the teamfight and thus, you complete your job as a tanker. Don't forget it also give you armor and mana which both important to Brad. Item order depends on the game line-up.
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Extension Items If you manage to get three of them in less than 50 minutes, its means you farm too much. Choose Travel if your/opposite team builds around pushing. The Teleportation really help you to attack or defend. Buy this item too if your team has the upper hand and play aggressive. Pipe is the only upgrade to Hoods of Defiance. You also a very good pipe carrier since you tends to be in the middle of the fight. Since you are always in the middle of the fight, Radiance is a good choice for you. Your monstrous HP also synergies very well with this item. Assault Cuirass for more tankish power and helping your team with its aura. It also increase your DPS output and thus, makes sure that the enemy can't ignore you. Item you buy depends on the game line-up.
IF YOU MANAGED TO BUY OTHER ITEMS THAN THE CORE + LUXURY, IT MEANS YOU FARMED TOO MUCH. |
Questionable Items If you have a hard game and struggle, Choose Phase for it's easy build and cheap price. Buy this item too if you seems to ganks a lot. It gives us a good mobility to roam around the map. About Vanguard, It has decent regeneration which needed and also damage block which synergies well with Return. The thing is, in early game you don't want to take damage from the enemy and you don't learn return yet. In Mid-Game to Late Game where realistically the time you buy this item, the damage block part become weaker and weaker. Shiva Guard is a nice item overall but has some weakness. First of all, the amount of EHP it gives kill your role as a tank. Nobody wants to attack a STR hero with monstrous HP and huge armor. This item also has an expensive buildup named Mystic Staff. The price of Mystic Staff is expensive and doesn't help you much when you got it. And Cuirass simply superior because Cuirass give you attack speed and thus, increase your DPS and make you a threat while the aura helps your team. Heart of Tarrasque will make you ignored more unless you already got decent DPS. And to get the acquired DPS, you need to buy another expensive item and force you to farm like chinese farmer. Manta Style is another great item on him. Brad's Illusions are very strong tanks since they got the magical resistance from Hood and give you pushing power as well as attract people to attack you. If you have Radiance, you can farm woods with you illusions. If you have BoT also, you are a decent pusher. The downside of this item is yasha doesn't give you much benefit for 2050 Gold. |
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Why delaying Double Edge? I mean, the reason you get it at 3 also applies to levels 5 and 7, doesn't it? 400 damage nuke at level 7 is almost Lina's ult, + the stun isn't that bad even with lvl 2 stomp iirc.
Rest seems good. |
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Fail guide, Vanguard is not mentioned.
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Nicely compact, not exactly my choice of items, and as for grammar corrections, there comes a space after a comma (error located at the start of your guide).
I like the mini guide. |
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why not metion BoT as a luxury? :P
nice btw. |
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always get double edge before hoof stomp unless youre level 1
stomp de de stomp de ult de
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max Double edge first then stomp.
why skip it for useless stun that cost mana? |
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oh my!!! that f***ing vanguard again? Why do you love it? It's just good for early game. When mid game starts its use is not that good anymore. I think I'll better have BM if I want anti-DPS but if as a tanker I prefer HoIW to be AoM or RoH to be perse which can later be BF.
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under hoof stomp description, you have that you shouldcome from the back b/c of small radius. when u get blink it's not an issue of course. just blink exactly where you want. this part should be mentioned in that paragraph.
does he realy stick with regular boots till the end? power treads gives him more str for cheap. is return is negligible to heroes, then can't vangaurd be worth it? i'd like more justification to why one couldn't take it as the first item in place of hood. animaction cancel section: has been "dealt" not deal. just a quick fix there. minor point, but i dont think many peopl recognize him as bradwarden. eveyrone calls him centaur. maybe he can be referred to as centaur throughotu the guide. but it's your choice and it's not a big deal. i can't disagree on the skill build. item build seems fine eapart from the vanguard justification. oh yeah, address boots more. power tread could be fine boost if ur just gonna use TP scrolls. imo travels is just too expensive.he may be better off using 2200 gold to work up to radiance or get more tank items like vanguard or other boots. phase is questionable but i suppose it can work. it's mainly for running away. your role is initiation, and the damge you deal isn't gonna be that significant. i would go for treads instead for the cheap extra HP/emergency mana. |
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A very good mini guide. Imo no need to change much except from grammar really. I think that BoT is much more useful than PT or Phase and Radiance can be good even if you get it later on. Good item build, skill build and reasoning.
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The Alt Tab miniguide
Don't show skillicon's names are easier to remember people remeber by names not by pictures.And organise it vertical instead of horizontal Easier on the Eyes ![]() Order of items is kinda weird magic stick after a dagger >.<" ? Stick BoS Dagger Khadgar seems more fitting no bottle ? Cent is a natural ganker and bottle + gankers = make babies correct the orders to the order of buying the stuff Both in Alt tab and Normal item build partadd to notes Double edge: Double edge no longer can be used to deny yourself !!! Well Radiance is quite useless imho but well if you're gonna play a carry cent sure do as you like i personally hate it. No mention of Queling Blade Cent has quite the base damage so a QB is neat for the little pony When to pick, if you need a tank that can jungle and axe is banned ? Do not fucking jungle with cent ? Are you fucking retarded it's an option yea a stout shield helps out for this mention that you can disagree on it but if they choose to do so give them hints on how to do so. If cent is fucked in the lane you MUST jungle or i'll flame the shit out of you cent needs that dagger asap if the jungle allows the fastest way to get it GO FUCKING JUNGLE. Blink + Stomp if you already have it Save Double edge up for a bit since it's ministun can be used to cancel a channeling spell Add this well that's it for now |
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As if your guides are actualy good...
On Topic: Well writen, consice guide. I like it.
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Thanks all for the feedback.
For the Alt-Tab Mini Guide, If people prefer Text over Image and Vertical over Horizontal, I will change it. |
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Decent item/skill build. Perhaps you could mention a bit more about initiating/laning, etc. Just flesh the guide out a bit.
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Good guide, not too in-depth, but then again, Centaur isn't an overly complicated hero.
Disregard what pubs tell you, your item build is spot on. |
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No more comment so I assume this guide is perfect enough?
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Lol, no jungle?
Your item build is not bad, but the guide would be better if you did not shun jungling and placed it as viable option for early game. |
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Good guide, like others stated short and sweet
![]() One thing though, CW badly needs Heart come lategame. The massive health boost is essential to keep up Double Edge spammage in team battles, and it helps him heal up very quickly after fights. As for boots, BoT is my choice. Phase's damage is wasted and you're already going for Blink, plus you're a scary pusher with Return and gay-high HP; noone will want to try and stop you alone ![]() Good work so far!
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No. Jungling Centa is so yesterday. With the recent buff to Double Edge, He is a monster in lane. I will added Heart to Luxury Item List.
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wHAT HAPPEN TO MY GUIDE???
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