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Old 05-28-2012, 02:30 PM   #1
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Default Troll Warlord in DotA 2


I couldn't help but notice, that even though by now we have leaks for most heroes, there is no indication of Troll Warlord being worked upon in Dota 2. The train of thought that follows leads to the assumption that he is maybe getting a full rework?

I mean, we already know that:

a) Icefrog said he is working on a number of hero reworks for the next version.
b) 2 of those heroes that are known to get a rework, Pit Lord and Phoenix, are among those heroes with the least progress in DotA 2.
c) Troll Warlord shouldn't be too hard nor concept-wise nor programming-wise to make. And still he has zero progress.
d) Troll Warlord is among the most infamous "boring" DotA heroes: Right click wonder, even though his active has seen a fair amount of changes over the course of time.

What do you think? Is it possible Icefrog will turn the rightclicker into a different kind of hero?
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

Same for techies, tuskar, terrorblade, the 4 new heroes......
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:32 PM   #3
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No, because we already port enough troll to Dota2.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:34 PM   #4
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

Pit Lord
TC
Terror
Tuskar
Techies
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Skywrath
Xin
Shredder
Phoenix
Visage
Troll

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Old 05-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

And AM isn't a right click hero.
And SK isn't a right click hero.

seriously.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:52 PM   #6
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And AM isn't a right click hero.
And SK isn't a right click hero.

seriously.
They are ported already.

Also, most of the heroes you guys mentioned are either last priority heroes (Techies), the 4 new heroes (Xin, Shredder etc), in need of overhaul due to Blizzard copyrights (Terror) or already confirmed for overhaul (TC, Pit Lord, Phoenix). I, for once, still think a total hero remake for Troll Warlord is a possibility.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:53 PM   #7
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They are ported already.

Also, most of the heroes you guys mentioned are either last priority heroes (Techies), the 4 new heroes (Xin, Shredder etc), in need of overhaul due to Blizzard copyrights (Terror) or already confirmed for overhaul (TC, Pit Lord, Phoenix). I, for once, still think a total hero remake for Troll Warlord is a possibility.
TC was not confirmed for overhaul and TB does not have copyright problems
And the 4 new heroes aren't heroes? they deserve to be ported as much as anyone else
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:04 PM   #8
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Part of it is popularity. No one plays Troll or Visage, hence those two not being worked on as energetically as shit like Barathrum. You can blame pubs, once again.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #9
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Part of it is popularity. No one plays Troll or Visage, hence those two not being worked on as energetically as shit like Barathrum. You can blame pubs, once again.
In competitive! Pubs love him though.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #10
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In competitive! Pubs love him though.
They really don't. I haven't seen Troll in a pub in quite a while.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:10 PM   #11
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They really don't. I haven't seen Troll in a pub in quite a while.
They figured having to click G more than once per game is too much work.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:11 PM   #12
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Troll isn't a about right clicking, he's about quickly changing between melee/ranged form and nuking others.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:15 PM   #13
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They really don't. I haven't seen Troll in a pub in quite a while.
How often do you play DotA and what platform you use?
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:21 PM   #14
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How often do you play DotA and what platform you use?
I play on DotACash and RGC mostly, most days of the week 1-3 games. The last time I saw a Troll was probably over a month ago, played by Kris. Closer to 3-4 months last time a random picked it.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:42 PM   #15
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Lets just wait and see then.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:51 PM   #16
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I play on DotACash and RGC mostly, most days of the week 1-3 games. The last time I saw a Troll was probably over a month ago, played by Kris. Closer to 3-4 months last time a random picked it.
Never played on those platforms.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:26 PM   #17
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in need of overhaul due to Blizzard copyrights (Terror)
1. Why exactly? I don't see anything wrong copyright-wise with just porting TB to dota2.
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or already confirmed for overhaul (TC, Pit Lord, Phoenix)
2. Where is it confirmed? Link it please.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:17 PM   #18
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

Lycan? He's even a more right click hero than troll.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:25 PM   #19
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1. Why exactly? I don't see anything wrong copyright-wise with just porting TB to dota2.

2. Where is it confirmed? Link it please.
Go to Suggestion sub-forum and head toward Request.


I believe VALVe works on heroes that are popular in Pub-scene or Competitive Scene. Troll is not that popular I believe, so as Visage.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:28 PM   #20
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please do not make terrorblade shit. please keep his awesomeness.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:42 PM   #21
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

In versuta stream i heard that Valve wont implement MEDUSA at all
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:44 PM   #22
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Doubt it, they said full conversion. If Medusa was to be left out they would take her out of dota 1 as well
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:45 PM   #23
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In versuta stream i heard that Valve wont implement MEDUSA at all
Because he's qualified as Valve's spokesperson.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:46 PM   #24
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Medusa already has her alpha textures ingame.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:49 PM   #25
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Every hero of dota 1 will be in dota 2, techies included
elsewise icefrog would have deleted them
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:06 PM   #26
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

I think hes recent ability change is enough. I've always admired him as being that hero who could be at 2% hp and destroy a full hp hero thats chasing him. (In a classier way than Huskar)

Im sure TB will see a change though.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:18 PM   #27
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I love Warlord

There are many heroes without progress including Tauren Chieften.


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Old 05-28-2012, 09:47 PM   #28
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The only hero I think will get a full remake will be pit. His skills don't fit him being a pit lord at all and his ult is dumb.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:16 PM   #29
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Default Re: Troll Warlord in DotA 2

Sadly, few understand that Troll is not that easy to play. I find Skeleton king or Centaur faar more easy to play

---------- Post added at 01:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:12 PM ----------

The Truth is that any hero is good if you know to play it, Even heroes like Skeleton King can be played in a PRO way,....Sadly I saw many noobs who play it..awfull...
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Old 11-28-2012, 02:23 PM   #30
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I don't think any here from Dota 1 will not get into Dota 2 , it takes time , they have bug fixes to do , they give a hero evry 2 weaks and I wana see what hero is next , maybe a dual hero.I just want the game to be free to play for evryone.
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