Wiki Initial Draft

[ImmolatusBurn]

Overall Goals

The purpose of the PlayDotA Wiki is to create a collection of all important information about DotA, and relevant Warcraft III mechanics. There should be categories and pages on the Wiki for anything related to understanding how DotA works.

The Wiki is intended to be a community effort, if you have information that is missing from one of the pages, you are encouraged to contribute to the articles.

The Wiki is not intended to include information on the specific heroes and items of DotA. The Hero database and Item database are still being used for that information as they can present it more properly. Those pages will also be further developed as we move forward and provide new mechanisms for improving the data there directly as needed. For now, if you have any information that should be added for that stuff, post it here to help.



Rules and guidelines

All users are able to edit this Wiki, and are encouraged to share their knowledge or make the information more accurate. The Wiki is currently English-only, this is to make it more consistent and readable.

Clarity of writing and concept are very important. Some pages are closed to editing, this can be due to several reasons, including vandalism or the timelessness of the content. Articles should be written in a formal, understandable way.

-Remember to write articles from a neutral point of view.
-Do not "sign" articles with your name, it is a group effort and the history keeps track of contributions.
-Use the preview feature when editing, and make sure to proofread your changes and make sure they are as intended before confirming the edit.
-When editing a Wiki page, try to write a short summary of the changes and their purpose in the Summary field.

Before making any significant changes to an article, make sure to review the discussion page for that article to see if there is any important information there. Also, when editing articles, try to maintain a consistent style with the rest of that article's content, and with similar articles.

All the articles that should be needed for covering DotA mechanics have already been created, if you believe a new article should be created, PM ImmolatusBurn with an explanation of what page you think is needed, and why. We surely missed stuff so don't hesitate to recommend new categories.

Article content can and should be discussed on that article's discussion page, this includes controversial changes and other things that may require consideration.


Phase 1

The Wiki will go through various phases of development. The first phase is to populate the current articles with information. This also includes the Unit Statistics page which will have the full statistics and abilities for all non-hero units.

Please do not create extra pages at this point except for the Unit Statistics sub pages. If there are pages that are missing outside of that section, please ask a mechanics moderator first, so we can keep things organized at this early stage.

We hope you guys enjoy this experience. As the wiki becomes more developed, we will make it more visible on the main site directly. Right now it is still in a very early stage, there will be a lot of work done on the visual presentation and organization in the future, but we wanted to have those interested to have the opportunity to be involved from the start.


To access it click the link below:

DotA Wiki

[Robzor]

Can we get a big banner proclaiming how awesome I am for providing all information?

EDIT: Btw, wtf is with this LOL500WIDTH.

[Cáno]

• Character encoding is wrong (C�no).
  
• Also width (but this has been discussed a lot of times I think).
  
• But... omG I was waiting for this!
  

• Member of groups: Autoconfirmed users

  ? :>
  

• User ID: 18

  What is this?
  
• This link leads to nowhere.
  

• The Wiki is not intended to include information on the specific heroes and items of DotA.

  I don't see a possibiility to provide detailed information on skills' behavior without having separate page for each skill/hero.

Greets
Cáno

[ImmolatusBurn]

Originally Posted by Cáno

• This link leads to nowhere.

Many pages will rely on community input to be created.

Originally Posted by Cáno

• I don't see a possibiility to provide detailed information on skills' behavior without having separate page for each skill/hero.

The Wiki is not intended to have detailed info on each skill, that's what the hero pages are for.

[Cáno]

Sorry, I thought about that link. It's forum link.

The Wiki is not intended to have detailed info on each skill

All of my excitement is gone. -_-

Greets
Cáno

[ImmolatusBurn]

Fixed the broken links from the Community Portal and About pages.

[Cáno]

Is the Wiki going to replace Mechanics section?
The option to change the skin completely destroys page's arrangement (also some headings are images which don't fit other themes), thus should be disabled in my opinion.

Edit: I think it's too early to encourage users to contribute as there are no example atricles, templates, guidelines. It's the first day, though.

Edit 2: \o/ Am I doing it right? I've also accidentally this. Sorry for the mess.

Greets
Cáno

[Black Isle]

There should be INDEPTH DETAILED information about EVERY SINGLE SKILL in the wiki i think. Not only dmg type, casting time, projectile speed, targets included, dummy unit spell, like info but also. Which skill it is based. Interesting ways to use it ( u dont have to breath in front of you with jakiro for example ) Interesting ways to avoid them ( u can exit naga's ensanre with ghost scepter ) And all trick including that skill/item ( cyclone urself dagger out ). if all people share's their knowledge and secrets there will be a long page for one skill. Which is in my opinion really important and something never achieved in the past. We dont want to a simple information about units hp mana right?

[Cáno]

Originally Posted by PhthaloBlack

There should be INDEPTH DETAILED information about EVERY SINGLE SKILL in the wiki i think (...)

This was inevitable.
You are free to make such a Wiki.

I understand that it's meant to supplement the current Hero/Item database and after some time replace Mechanics section.

Greets
Cáno

[Robzor]

You can't replace the mechanics section due to people failing at understanding or needing to confirm the facts they read.

[Super-sheep]

Or maybe dont make this wiki only about mechs. It could be ANYTHING about dota, teams/clans, lane-combos, builds, (in)famous players, leavers, anything that is in dota.

[Cáno]

Originally Posted by Super-sheep

Or maybe dont make this wiki only about mechs. It could be ANYTHING about dota, teams/clans, lane-combos, builds, (in)famous players, leavers, anything that is in dota.

Note that it's official DotA Wiki. -_-

Originally Posted by e00E

You can't replace the mechanics section due to people failing at understanding or needing to confirm the facts they read.

Seeing that the intended purpose and content of the Wiki is almost exactly the same as Mechanics section's I see no reason why Wiki shouldn't replace Mechanics in the future.
Wiki will possibly provide more detailed information than Mechanics section and as they focus on the same subject Mechanics will probably become redundant. I'm obviously thinking about distant future.

Even if it sounds optimistically I think it's very probable scenario. I still consider DAWiki as the most accurate and complete DotA database (but now we can't count on Wyvernoid, am I right? Is Psf_Kurt involved in this project?).

Greets
Cáno

[Impulsive]

Originally Posted by Cáno

Seeing that the intended purpose and content of the Wiki is almost exactly the same as Mechanics section's I see no reason why Wiki shouldn't replace Mechanics in the future.
Wiki will possibly provide more detailed information than Mechanics section and as they focus on the same subject Mechanics will probably become redundant. I'm obviously thinking about distant future.

Even if it sounds optimistically I think it's very probable scenario. I still consider DAWiki as the most accurate and complete DotA database (but now we can't count on Wyvernoid, am I right?).

Greets
Cáno

If the world only contains logical, intelligent individuals, sure that would work. Don't think evolution would take us there either. But anyways, I missed the old DotA Wiki for checking up on some skills, hope this works out nicely.

[Robzor]

Originally Posted by Cáno

Even if it sounds optimistically I think it's very probable scenario. I still consider DAWiki as the most accurate and complete DotA database (but now we can't count on Wyvernoid, am I right? Is Psf_Kurt involved in this project?).

I haven't been in touch with Wyvernoid since he last dropped by in #mech, that was a long time ago and he's retired so I'd not count on him.

[Foede]

Psf_Kurt is not involved in this project AFAIK.

[IceFrog]

Originally Posted by e00E

I haven't been in touch with Wyvernoid since he last dropped by in #mech, that was a long time ago and he's retired so I'd not count on him.

I've talked with Wyvernoid recently. He is busy these days, but he'll be returning at some point in the future to help out.

The wiki will be built one step at a time. At first it will be mechanics focused, then we can expand it to other things that we want in order to grow it into a full repository of information.

[IceFrog]

Originally Posted by PhthaloBlack

There should be INDEPTH DETAILED information about EVERY SINGLE SKILL in the wiki i think. Not only dmg type, casting time, projectile speed, targets included, dummy unit spell, like info but also. Which skill it is based. Interesting ways to use it ( u dont have to breath in front of you with jakiro for example ) Interesting ways to avoid them ( u can exit naga's ensanre with ghost scepter ) And all trick including that skill/item ( cyclone urself dagger out ). if all people share's their knowledge and secrets there will be a long page for one skill. Which is in my opinion really important and something never achieved in the past. We dont want to a simple information about units hp mana right?

Yes, this will eventually be the case. We want to do things one step at a time though. At some point in the near future the hero and item pages themselves will have wiki integration to tie things together further and do the type of stuff you are talking about. Don't hesitate to give more ideas for things we should consider for it in the future.

[ziggy]

will you guys include all the heroes created? by all, i mean heroes like gambler and the like. i've been looking for information about the old dota maps and heroes for the past weeks and can't seem to find one.

[Foede]

Originally Posted by ziggy

will you guys include all the heroes created? by all, i mean heroes like gambler and the like. i've been looking for information about the old dota maps and heroes for the past weeks and can't seem to find one.

I don't think so, or at least, not right now. You should search on the forum or google for that kind of info I'm afraid.

[starfighter9]

IIRC there was a thread back in DA describing all the old heroes. For information on old maps in DotA Chat section there is a summary of changelogs at http://www.playdota.com/forums/6620/...ry-changelogs/, might be useful. I doubt including this in the wiki would be a top priority though.