[TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands

thoby123 · 10-19-2009, 12:46 PM

There are several skills in DotA which have a 'dash' command that shows the owner of the hero extra information regarding its benefits. While this is all fine and dandy, why is the existence of said commands hidden? The only place for newbies to discover these commands is through a decent guide, or the Game Info panel (and even that only states -fs for Flesh Heap if I'm not mistaken).

Here's a list of said skills (if I missed any please inform me!

):

Pudge's Flesh Heap (-fs) and Meat Hook (-ha)

Silencer's Last Word (-int)

PotM's Elune's Arrow (-aa)

Alchemist's Goblin's Greed (-gg)

Clockwerk's Hookshot (-ha)

Ogre Magi's Multicast (-mc)

Techies' Remote Mines (-mines)

Invoker's... Invoke

(-invokelist)

My suggestion: add information about these commands to the tooltips of the abilities. For cosmetic's sake, this should be in greytext (like the flavour text for items).

Example using Elune's Arrow:

Fires an arrow to a location with deadly precision, dealing large damage and stunning the first unit it strikes. Stun duration increases based on how far the target is, ranging from 0.5 to 5 seconds. Has 3000 range.
Type -aa to see your accuracy in hitting units with Elune's Arrow.
The colour is off, but you get the idea I hope

Thoughts?

Grymlax · 10-19-2009, 01:50 PM

I would rather see a new command replacing all of the other commands. for example -hi (hero information) which will simply display all possible information about the hero. then you wouldn't have to learn all of these different commands for each hero.

thoby123 · 10-19-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grymlax

I would rather see a new command replacing all of the other commands. for example -hi (hero information) which will simply display all possible information about the hero. then you wouldn't have to learn all of these different commands for each hero.

That's actually quite a good idea! Not sure bout codability though, but I'm sure you can differentiate between whichever hero a player is using.

Grymlax · 10-19-2009, 02:06 PM

This is easily codeable I could create a simple trigger myself to achieve this effect, so don't worry about codeability.

Shatterman · 10-19-2009, 05:41 PM

OP's suggestion is nice. supported

alternatively use grymlax' idea

InfestedMaiden · 10-20-2009, 12:00 AM

Awesome suggestion, a big T-up!

NoThlnG · 10-20-2009, 12:13 AM

Nice suggestion. New-b friendly

Captain Planet · 11-23-2009, 01:58 AM

I like the thread starter suggestion. Easier to mention the command in the skill tooltips than to code a whole new trigger for something that has already been implemented (the commands) T-up

Atchucan · 12-16-2009, 01:17 AM

T-up!

Implement this ASAP!

FaultLess · 12-16-2009, 02:00 AM

Thumbs Up!

LulzYeah · 12-16-2009, 02:54 AM

I don't understand how having -mines would help. Maybe there's other reasons that I didn't know about.

T-up anyway

[SOM]Js · 12-16-2009, 04:36 AM

i like this.. T-up

T-up to Grymlax as well

Mystique- · 01-11-2010, 03:54 PM

Both thoby123 and grymlax's ideas seem helpful! Although grymlax's achieves the end-purpose better, since it is just composed of one command.
Great idea!

Black.Lotus · 01-11-2010, 10:23 PM

T-DOWN!!
The suggestion is not bad, but this would make the text too long and it's not really needed. In the map quest log are all the commands.

thoby123 · 01-12-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black.Lotus

T-DOWN!!
The suggestion is not bad, but this would make the text too long and it's not really needed. In the map quest log are all the commands.

It's only one extra sentence in the tooltip. Also the questlog is horribly outdated, and even if updated would not be the logical place to put these IMO.

Black.Lotus · 01-12-2010, 12:12 AM

Maybe add a message you get at the beginning which says that you can use a special command.

thoby123 · 01-12-2010, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black.Lotus

Maybe add a message you get at the beginning which says that you can use a special command.

That's also possible, though I'd prefer keeping it in the tooltip just to be newbie-friendly.

Black.Lotus · 01-12-2010, 12:25 AM

Noobs don't need such a command. They just play... they don't care how many percent they got, etc.
And if they get better they will know the command. Without reading it in the tooltip.

Dynes · 03-25-2010, 10:04 PM

Whatever, if they are good, they won't even bother typing commands, t-up.

Zangetsu2201 · 03-25-2010, 10:14 PM

Of course, T-up!

10-19-2009, 12:46 PM	#1
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	[TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands There are several skills in DotA which have a 'dash' command that shows the owner of the hero extra information regarding its benefits. While this is all fine and dandy, why is the existence of said commands hidden? The only place for newbies to discover these commands is through a decent guide, or the Game Info panel (and even that only states -fs for Flesh Heap if I'm not mistaken). Here's a list of said skills (if I missed any please inform me! ): Pudge's Flesh Heap (-fs) and Meat Hook (-ha) Silencer's Last Word (-int) PotM's Elune's Arrow (-aa) Alchemist's Goblin's Greed (-gg) Clockwerk's Hookshot (-ha) Ogre Magi's Multicast (-mc) Techies' Remote Mines (-mines) Invoker's... Invoke (-invokelist) My suggestion: add information about these commands to the tooltips of the abilities. For cosmetic's sake, this should be in greytext (like the flavour text for items). Example using Elune's Arrow: Fires an arrow to a location with deadly precision, dealing large damage and stunning the first unit it strikes. Stun duration increases based on how far the target is, ranging from 0.5 to 5 seconds. Has 3000 range. Type -aa to see your accuracy in hitting units with Elune's Arrow. The colour is off, but you get the idea I hope Thoughts? __________________ Bottle fame, brew glory- A guide to the underloved, underestimated Alchemist. Now comes in semi-Premium quality! Currently trapped in study limbo, spastic activity for now SUGGESTIONS: Give Lich jazzhands! Alchie needs a new Greed! Pit o' Malice needs more pizzaz! Flesh Golem/Tombstone makeover anyone? Upgrade Complete! Newbie-friendly commands! Make BH's Wind Walk synergise! Make Gnoll a Gnoll! IMPLEMENTED: Give Dirge some real disease!

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10-19-2009, 01:50 PM	#2
Grymlax Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 197	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands I would rather see a new command replacing all of the other commands. for example -hi (hero information) which will simply display all possible information about the hero. then you wouldn't have to learn all of these different commands for each hero.

10-19-2009, 02:06 PM	#4
Grymlax Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 197	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands This is easily codeable I could create a simple trigger myself to achieve this effect, so don't worry about codeability.

10-19-2009, 05:41 PM	#5
Shatterman Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,212	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands OP's suggestion is nice. supported alternatively use grymlax' idea

10-20-2009, 12:00 AM	#6
InfestedMaiden Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 97	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Awesome suggestion, a big T-up! __________________

10-20-2009, 12:13 AM	#7
NoThlnG Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 14,371 Blog Entries: 8	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Nice suggestion. New-b friendly __________________ Assassin's Creed Helpful Links Suggestions Epic Quotes . Credits to Lotus V Eater . . How to Get Your Suggestion Implemented Custom Model GIF Request Suggestion Assisstor's Thread Guides, Lists and Templates How to Become a Moderator . . Suggestion Portfolio My Ability Collections .

12-16-2009, 01:17 AM	#9
Atchucan Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 314	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands T-up! Implement this ASAP! __________________ Our clan (Atchucan Gaming) plays competitive Fufu Ninja and DotA We also play casual Heroes of Newerth (Dota genre) and we're waiting for Dota 2.

12-16-2009, 02:00 AM	#10
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12-16-2009, 02:54 AM	#11
LulzYeah Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Meh.. Posts: 2,537 Blog Entries: 7	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands I don't understand how having -mines would help. Maybe there's other reasons that I didn't know about. T-up anyway

12-16-2009, 04:36 AM	#12
[SOM]Js Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kuala Lumpur, MYS Posts: 597 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands i like this.. T-up T-up to Grymlax as well __________________ Suggestion Signature Give Gem of Truesight some LURVE Other cosmetics by [SOM]Js

01-11-2010, 03:54 PM	#13
Mystique- Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 822	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Both thoby123 and grymlax's ideas seem helpful! Although grymlax's achieves the end-purpose better, since it is just composed of one command. Great idea!

01-11-2010, 10:23 PM	#14
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands T-DOWN!! The suggestion is not bad, but this would make the text too long and it's not really needed. In the map quest log are all the commands. __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

01-12-2010, 12:12 AM	#16
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Maybe add a message you get at the beginning which says that you can use a special command. __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

01-12-2010, 12:25 AM	#18
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Noobs don't need such a command. They just play... they don't care how many percent they got, etc. And if they get better they will know the command. Without reading it in the tooltip. __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

03-25-2010, 10:04 PM	#19
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,853 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Whatever, if they are good, they won't even bother typing commands, t-up. -hi? Better start typing for all of the heroes... __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.

03-25-2010, 10:14 PM	#20
Zangetsu2201 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,507 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [TOOLTIPS] Skills with Commands Of course, T-up!