[ANIMATION] Scream of Pain

Terresquall · 10-21-2009, 06:58 AM

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EDIT 240810: I've tweaked the transparency of the model to make it look less like a Warcry/Stomp spell and more like a sound-based AoE spell. Also reduced the size of the model.

EDIT 120410: I've created a custom effect for Scream of Pain based on my suggestion to remove the hardcoded Mountain Giant sound that comes along with the original model! At the cost of some MSI, it is now possible to have a cleaner implementation of this suggestion!

Introduction

Scream of Pain badly needs an overhaul. It's a powerful nuke that is very badly represented by soundless, feeble green missiles lightly hitting affected enemies.

A Scream of Pain

This represents pain so much better. It does away with the translucent green missiles and the feeble blue effect that plays on the QoP's feet:

And its pretty easy to do too! The effect is an imported model that you can download here (5 kb).

Also, play the death animation of the effect Abilities\\Weapons\\MurgulMagicMissile\\MurgulMagi cMissile.mdl on the "head" of all affected units. This replaces the green missiles that shows who gets hit.

Sounds

Currently, the Queen of Pain already has a sound effect that plays with the spell. It is Units\\Undead\\Banshee\\BansheeDeath.wav. What I'm suggesting for this sound is to have it be played at a pitch of 1.2, instead of its current pitch of 1. This makes the sound more shrill and fitting to the theme of QoP. (Original suggestion from Cigaro)

A testmap is attached below for those who want to hear and see the new effects!

Miscellaneous

Scream of Pain's missiles are removed in this suggestion, so it would be good (IMO) if the spell was recoded to become a proper AoE spell (instant damage, hits all units in AoE). As it is based off Fan of Knives now, it doesn't hit invisible units and units that the QoP does not have vision of, which makes no sense at all considering it's a scream.

There is a testmap here if you want to check it out in live action. Note that a glitch in the map causes the sound effect of Scream of Pain to not play on the first cast, but subsequent casts play the sound effects just fine.

Rizenix · 10-21-2009, 09:03 AM

Finally a suggestion for QoP's Scream of Pain! I've been waiting for something that will look more of a sound rather than projectiles!

for you!

Ez_Mystery · 10-21-2009, 09:04 AM

not bad

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Originally Posted by rizenix

Finally a suggestion for QoP's Scream of Pain! I've been waiting for something that will look more of a sound rather than projectiles!

for you!

wtf, there's already plenty

Rizenix · 10-21-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ez_Mystery

not bad

wtf, there's already plenty

Really? I haven't seen them around. B'coz I only see the First Page of the Visual Suggestion Page, :P

Shatterman · 10-21-2009, 10:12 AM

there are many suggestions for sop but this is by far the best. t-up

thoby123 · 10-21-2009, 10:18 AM

Classic suggestion, and great effects. T-Up as ever

Linism · 10-21-2009, 10:22 AM

QoP's current scream is probably sentient or something, that's why it can choose targets instead of acting like a blanket AoE spell.
Terresquall is a Cosmetic genius, I support this too.

T-Up.

edit: typo

bababoom · 10-21-2009, 12:56 PM

is the aoe correct?

Siraraz · 10-21-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bababoom

is the aoe correct?

Is this a visual or a remake?

thoby123 · 10-21-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by APL

Is this a visual or a remake?

It's Terrasquall, so purely visual I believe since he knows his stuff

I'm guessing the size of the taunt effect will be changed a bit to fit the actual AoE, whatever it is.

ChiefThief · 10-21-2009, 01:09 PM

hell yeah , T-UP. sometimes i dont even realize how i lose so much daymn hp in a teamfight with qop ._.

Schremba · 10-21-2009, 01:14 PM

You know, this topic on DA inspired me to create my own SoP effect. You can check it out in my signature. I like this very well, but like I already mentioned in my Topic, I dislike the Banshee Death sound for this skill. It fits better to Akasha's Ulti because it sounds 'stronger', too strong for a normal ability. I think a nice sound effect for this skill could be Assassin Death (I'm not sure if it is the right name but I'm talking about Lanaya's Death sound) with a higher pitch. Anyway, T-up.

Talor Karos · 10-21-2009, 02:33 PM

Hey Terre, why don't you just import all your suggestion from the old DA forum here? I've only seen a handful that made the crossover.

Anyways, back on topic. I've supported this before so it's a no-brainer T-up for me here as well.

Terresquall · 10-21-2009, 03:57 PM

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Hey Terre, why don't you just import all your suggestion from the old DA forum here? I've only seen a handful that made the crossover.

I do have intentions to bring quite a handful of suggestions from the old DA forums over here. The reason why I don't simply "port" them over is because I feel that most of them still have room for improvement, and I'm trying to find ways to improve upon each of them before I post them here.

Looking at some of my older suggestions, I was surprised at how lacking some of them actually were. A good visual suggestion isn't all about flashy lights and explosions, which was all I was making back then. Consideration has to be given to its impact on the game's experience (will it cause lag? Will it clutter the screen? Will it mislead players?) and whether the coding involved is stable. Very simply put, I'm making sure that all suggestions that I make over here are not only appealing, but also able to be implemented after technical aspects have been considered.

Mae Shirayuki · 10-21-2009, 04:03 PM

For me it is quite ok. Compare with the current animation, the current one looks more pure, and the one you suggesting looks like a roar animation[just blue colour]. How if combine both? Change the current animation of scream of pain to blue and + with this effect? Wow. Looks more epic.

Iano21 · 10-21-2009, 04:51 PM

But on the other hand if you implement a fast AoE visual the skill would effect instantly. With the current visual you still "see" (sometimes :P) that the skill is going to hit you and you have the opportunity to blink/heal/eatcookies before you get hit by the spell!

You should maybe implement a blue wave or sth heading for the victims.

Null!

icetech · 10-21-2009, 06:44 PM

T-up
it's can hit invis ?

Henry · 10-21-2009, 08:04 PM

Gorgeous Terresquall!

Now her little and old animation of "Scream Of Pain" can be used for her attack animation projectile!

NoThlnG · 10-22-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

Gorgeous Terresquall!

Now her little and old animation of "Scream Of Pain" can be used for her attack animation projectile!

Already used on lion I suppose?

On the topic, really nice suggestion but it looks more like roar than scream to me

AXN · 10-22-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Already used on lion I suppose?

On the topic, really nice suggestion but it looks more like roar than scream to me

Already used on lion? Lion's attack projectile is a red bone head with horns (the same as his staff's head)

Yes this is a very nice visual change done by the master of cosmetic changes! I support this one! Way to go Terresquall!

And the green projectile can now be used for her attack animation as was said by Henry.

10-21-2009, 09:03 AM	#2
Rizenix Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Earth, obviously Posts: 1,112	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain Finally a suggestion for QoP's Scream of Pain! I've been waiting for something that will look more of a sound rather than projectiles! for you!

10-21-2009, 10:12 AM	#5
Shatterman Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,216	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain there are many suggestions for sop but this is by far the best. t-up

10-21-2009, 10:18 AM	#6
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain Classic suggestion, and great effects. T-Up as ever __________________ Bottle fame, brew glory- A guide to the underloved, underestimated Alchemist. Now comes in semi-Premium quality! Currently trapped in study limbo, spastic activity for now SUGGESTIONS: Give Lich jazzhands! Alchie needs a new Greed! Pit o' Malice needs more pizzaz! Flesh Golem/Tombstone makeover anyone? Upgrade Complete! Newbie-friendly commands! Make BH's Wind Walk synergise! Make Gnoll a Gnoll! IMPLEMENTED: Give Dirge some real disease!

10-21-2009, 10:22 AM	#7
Linism Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: location, location! Posts: 2,833	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain QoP's current scream is probably sentient or something, that's why it can choose targets instead of acting like a blanket AoE spell. Terresquall is a Cosmetic genius, I support this too. T-Up. edit: typo

10-21-2009, 12:56 PM	#8
bababoom Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 984	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain is the aoe correct?

10-21-2009, 01:09 PM	#11
ChiefThief Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: India Posts: 88	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain hell yeah , T-UP. sometimes i dont even realize how i lose so much daymn hp in a teamfight with qop ._. __________________ im a bit inactive cos of exams

10-21-2009, 01:14 PM	#12
Schremba Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,975	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain You know, this topic on DA inspired me to create my own SoP effect. You can check it out in my signature. I like this very well, but like I already mentioned in my Topic, I dislike the Banshee Death sound for this skill. It fits better to Akasha's Ulti because it sounds 'stronger', too strong for a normal ability. I think a nice sound effect for this skill could be Assassin Death (I'm not sure if it is the right name but I'm talking about Lanaya's Death sound) with a higher pitch. Anyway, T-up. __________________ Improve DotA's Terrain Improve Visage's Gravekeeper's Cloak Change the model of the Shop/Protectorate

10-21-2009, 02:33 PM	#13
Talor Karos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain Hey Terre, why don't you just import all your suggestion from the old DA forum here? I've only seen a handful that made the crossover. Anyways, back on topic. I've supported this before so it's a no-brainer T-up for me here as well. __________________ STARCRAFT II \| DIABLO III Review My Suggestions: Shor'anan Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

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Mae Shirayuki Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Behind you Posts: 2,944 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain For me it is quite ok. Compare with the current animation, the current one looks more pure, and the one you suggesting looks like a roar animation[just blue colour]. How if combine both? Change the current animation of scream of pain to blue and + with this effect? Wow. Looks more epic. __________________ It flashes bright, then fades away. It can't protect. It only destroys. Me Thanks to AvunaOs for the Claire Farron signature. ^^ Thanks to Pinopi for the Claire Farron signature. ^^ Mae Shirayuki & Claire Farron Thanks to 28awg & all friends.

10-21-2009, 04:51 PM	#16
Iano21 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 52	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain But on the other hand if you implement a fast AoE visual the skill would effect instantly. With the current visual you still "see" (sometimes :P) that the skill is going to hit you and you have the opportunity to blink/heal/eatcookies before you get hit by the spell! You should maybe implement a blue wave or sth heading for the victims. Null! __________________ Items: [Ancient Hood][Bonding Souls] Heroes: [Aerial Specialist]

10-21-2009, 06:44 PM	#17
icetech Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 116	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain T-up it's can hit invis ? __________________

10-21-2009, 08:04 PM	#18
Henry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 340	Re: [ANIMATION] Scream of Pain Gorgeous Terresquall! Now her little and old animation of "Scream Of Pain" can be used for her attack animation projectile!