[EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen

Realitey · 07-07-2009, 11:14 AM

Notes
i made this suggestion to modify a skill cosmetic NOT to change it.. just to be clear for reviewers.

I've been playing dota for a quite long time, and i like playing with Rikimaru. since the model size is TOO small & in a way its hard to be noticed in ganks or when theres a big fight with lots of creeps interacting with the situation..so when the player wants to attacksomeone we usually start our attack with the blink strike then Smoke Screen.. the existance of lots of creeps make a problem when SA casts Smoke screen everything in that area is blocked u cant see anything.. specially ur self..you'll be lost in the smoke screen :S & u wont be know who you are hitting.

So what im suggesting over here is to keep the same animation, but u need to modify the cosmetic for the player who plays with SA only by making the smoke screen empty from inside & just show the borders of the smoke.. for other players they will the see the normal smoke screen.

Heres a picture of what i mean.. its not 100% accurate, cuz im still not pro in world map editor but i tried as hard as i can to deliever the idea...

Model -

The Player of Stealth Assassin will have this Vision - ofcourse the smoke arround him will be in BLUE

if anyone can provide picture for this i would be thankful...

Screen Shot Provided by Frizz.Meistier

Enemies & Allies will see this

Normal and old fashion Smoke Screen effect where it blocks the area will be Visible to Enemies & Allies - Enemies and allies cant See what Happens in the Smoke Screen

Pros
- You wont be lost in Smoke Screen
- You'll have a clear vision of what is goin on in the Smoke Screen
- You'll be able to attack Enemies much better than just clicking anywhere to hit
- Better Cosmetic for SA
- As far as i know there will be no MSI

Cons
- anything in mind ?

kanzakill · 07-07-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Realitey

Notes

Cons
- anything in mind ?

It's suggested already

_Blazechicken_ · 07-07-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kanzakill

It's suggested already

It isn't cons. Since IceFrog doesn't visit DA anymore, there's no reason to repost the suggestion from DA to here.

I supported it in DA and support it again here. T-up.

ReVeRiE^ · 07-07-2009, 12:54 PM

T-up. Assassins should see what others can't

Realitey · 07-07-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kanzakill

It's suggested already

Yea its suggested already... & it was suggested by me.. no one else suggested it before..

HappyCat · 07-07-2009, 01:39 PM

t-up it makes perfect sense.

Realitey · 07-08-2009, 12:38 PM

Thanks ppl

kanzakill · 07-08-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Realitey

Thanks ppl

Huh, I must have mistaken Dota-Allstars and Playdota. Sorry for accusing you of stealing your own idea

And I T-up here just as I did in DA

Whitefang · 07-08-2009, 12:50 PM

Well t-up for you..

Zack1996 · 07-08-2009, 01:13 PM

T-Up.
Only idiots *ahem* would throw a smoke bomb that reduces their vision to near zero.

Cp6uja · 07-08-2009, 01:18 PM

Is it codable like that? You see black circle, and other see blue smoke?

Realitey · 07-08-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

Is it codable like that? You see black circle, and other see blue smoke?

no its not like that.. i said that im a newbie in world editor...but what i meant is that the black smoke should be in Blue & the inside should be visible to Stealth Assassin user..

i used the black smoke cuz i dont know how to make it blue.. it was a way to deliver the idea..

Zirath · 07-08-2009, 03:21 PM

I think this was already suggested on DA.

Cp6uja · 07-08-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zirath

I think this was already suggested on DA.

Yes, by the OP himself, he said it.

qlq · 07-08-2009, 03:58 PM

Well T-up, as you stated there are no cons

Zirath · 07-08-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

Yes, by the OP himself, he said it.

Ah I see. I don't remember the black circle in the other one.

Realitey · 07-09-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Ah I see. I don't remember the black circle in the other one.

you are right.. but the link was broken & i couldt get a new one.. so please if any one can provide me with a blue smoke circle i'll be thankful

NoThlnG · 07-09-2009, 10:30 AM

No cons... except some people maybe confused and unpleasant to see the changes...

Anyway, T-UP

Ali Radicali · 07-09-2009, 11:08 AM

It would look awful and make no sense whatsoever. Just because Riki is the one who threw the bomb doesn't mean it should have unique transparent properties for him and his buddies. It'd make little sense flavorfully and it looks absolutely heinous, not to mention that it's not even needed, considering 99% of the heroes are taller than the smoke.

Big T-down.

kanzakill · 07-09-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Radicali

It would look awful and make no sense whatsoever.

Would you throw a smoke bomb knowing it may blind you?

Quote:

Just because Riki is the one who threw the bomb doesn't mean it should have unique transparent properties for him and his buddies.

Only for him guy

Quote:

It'd make little sense flavorfully and it looks absolutely heinous, not to mention that it's not even needed, considering 99% of the heroes are taller than the smoke.

Riki is not in that 99%

07-07-2009, 11:14 AM	#1
Realitey Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 506 Blog Entries: 3	[EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen Notes i made this suggestion to modify a skill cosmetic NOT to change it.. just to be clear for reviewers. I've been playing dota for a quite long time, and i like playing with Rikimaru. since the model size is TOO small & in a way its hard to be noticed in ganks or when theres a big fight with lots of creeps interacting with the situation..so when the player wants to attacksomeone we usually start our attack with the blink strike then Smoke Screen.. the existance of lots of creeps make a problem when SA casts Smoke screen everything in that area is blocked u cant see anything.. specially ur self..you'll be lost in the smoke screen :S & u wont be know who you are hitting. So what im suggesting over here is to keep the same animation, but u need to modify the cosmetic for the player who plays with SA only by making the smoke screen empty from inside & just show the borders of the smoke.. for other players they will the see the normal smoke screen. Heres a picture of what i mean.. its not 100% accurate, cuz im still not pro in world map editor but i tried as hard as i can to deliever the idea... Model - The Player of Stealth Assassin will have this Vision - ofcourse the smoke arround him will be in BLUE if anyone can provide picture for this i would be thankful... Screen Shot Provided by Frizz.Meistier Enemies & Allies will see this Normal and old fashion Smoke Screen effect where it blocks the area will be Visible to Enemies & Allies - Enemies and allies cant See what Happens in the Smoke Screen Pros - You wont be lost in Smoke Screen - You'll have a clear vision of what is goin on in the Smoke Screen - You'll be able to attack Enemies much better than just clicking anywhere to hit - Better Cosmetic for SA - As far as i know there will be no MSI Cons - anything in mind ?

Last edited by Realitey; 07-11-2009 at 12:07 AM.

07-07-2009, 12:54 PM	#4
ReVeRiE^ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 51	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen T-up. Assassins should see what others can't

07-07-2009, 01:39 PM	#6
HappyCat Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,275	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen t-up it makes perfect sense.

07-08-2009, 12:38 PM	#7
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07-08-2009, 01:13 PM	#10
Zack1996 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore! Posts: 1,255	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen T-Up. Only idiots ahem would throw a smoke bomb that reduces their vision to near zero.

07-08-2009, 01:18 PM	#11
Cp6uja Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 19,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen Is it codable like that? You see black circle, and other see blue smoke? __________________ Increase DotA Speed Free Steam game PDIH RGC Dotalicious-Gaming Increase DotA speed for about 10 fps here. Want fast and stable DotA? Go here! Team Fortress 2 is now FREE TO DOWNLOAD! How to join is here under How to Apply/Join. League with Reconnection Tool, Stats tracking, no Leavers and multiaccounts. CLICK

07-08-2009, 03:21 PM	#13
Zirath Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wherever Posts: 1,836	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen I think this was already suggested on DA.

07-08-2009, 03:58 PM	#15
qlq Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the abyss of the unknown Posts: 2,924 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen Well T-up, as you stated there are no cons

07-09-2009, 10:30 AM	#18
NoThlnG Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PlayDotA.com Posts: 13,954 Blog Entries: 8	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen No cons... except some people maybe confused and unpleasant to see the changes... Anyway, T-UP __________________ Assassin's Creed Helpful Links Suggestions Epic Quotes . Credits to Lotus V Eater . . How to Get Your Suggestion Implemented Custom Model GIF Request Suggestion Assisstor's Thread Guides, Lists and Templates How to Become a Moderator . . Suggestion Portfolio My Ability Collections .

07-09-2009, 11:08 AM	#19
Ali Radicali Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Amsterdam, Holland Posts: 2,713	Re: [EFFECT/COSMETIC] Rikimaru Smoke Screen It would look awful and make no sense whatsoever. Just because Riki is the one who threw the bomb doesn't mean it should have unique transparent properties for him and his buddies. It'd make little sense flavorfully and it looks absolutely heinous, not to mention that it's not even needed, considering 99% of the heroes are taller than the smoke. Big T-down.