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Old 06-22-2012, 04:38 PM   #1
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DoTA 2 is apparently a game consisting of intellegent human beings, at least, to some extent, but all i may gaze upon in pubs are those who you call racists.
The case is, most lesser beings have yet not learned that every human is an individuality, and being born in country e.g. "N" does not impair any of your physical or mental skills in any way. A bunch of those connects to a matchmaking server, somehow finds out about me being Russian or even straightforward asks about it, as if it is important to them to know. After the short pause the ignorance is spouted out. Every last stereotype, every last motive and riddim of "us" and "them", binded to their weak minds by an overlord of some sort starts flying in the chat. Mostly the arguments consist of "imagin i connect 2 server and den only cyrillic and if i insult a russian he insults mai mom wat do pls" or "all russians are "X"". Any attempts to enlighten the lesser results in "r u finding smart words in googl" or "go drink vodka rusfag ;DDD". I am mostly insulted not by the ethnical part, albeit by their ignorance. Reporting does not work. I'd like somebody to explain me, is there a proper mechanism of not finding drones or parodies of humans like those in matchmaking? I do understand this is probably going to get a reply like "umad rusfag?" or "its the internet pls wat u want?" or even "pls talk like we all do or u sound liek condescending jerk", but i still do hope there are nice humans in PD.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:44 PM   #2
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Deal with it? Not hard.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #3
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Sticks and stones.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #4
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DoTA 2 is apparently a game consisting of intellegent human beings, at least, to some extent, but all i may gaze upon in pubs are those who you call racists.
The case is, most lesser beings have yet not learned that every human is an individuality, and being born in country e.g. "N" does not impair any of your physical or mental skills in any way. A bunch of those connects to a matchmaking server, somehow finds out about me being Russian or even straightforward asks about it, as if it is important to them to know. After the short pause the ignorance is spouted out. Every last stereotype, every last motive and riddim of "us" and "them", binded to their weak minds by an overlord of some sort starts flying in the chat. Mostly the arguments consist of "imagin i connect 2 server and den only cyrillic and if i insult a russian he insults mai mom wat do pls" or "all russians are "X"". Any attempts to enlighten the lesser results in "r u finding smart words in googl" or "go drink vodka rusfag ;DDD". I am mostly insulted not by the ethnical part, albeit by their ignorance. Reporting does not work. I'd like somebody to explain me, is there a proper mechanism of not finding drones or parodies of humans like those in matchmaking? I do understand this is probably going to get a reply like "umad rusfag?" or "its the internet pls wat u want?" or even "pls talk like we all do or u sound liek condescending jerk", but i still do hope there are nice humans in PD.
Amen.
You're about to quickly find out that the population of PD is entirely indicative of the population of DotA. Dicks. Dicks everywhere!
 
Old 06-22-2012, 04:46 PM   #5
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are you 12 or something? just now realizing the world isn't full of tolerant and well-meaning individuals?

you aren't going to change anyone with your post. at best you'll get confirmation of what you know; there are a couple of genuinely good people in any given group.

but more than likely you're just going to get trolled.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:46 PM   #6
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Deal with it? Not hard.
Ignoring stupidity is a hard task, but i'll try to.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 04:47 PM   #7
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Ignoring stupidity is a hard task, but i'll try to.
You don't need to ignore stupidity. You need to deal with it.

You can't just make a problem out of every sentence every human being used to hurt or insult somebody. Because you also did that.

Learn to be tolerant.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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There is no cure for stupidity, but you can piss them off back, but do it cleverly.

If you talk back to them, you feed their stupidity, they think you're pissed off, they win.
If you don't, they think they shut your mouth with their insults, when you simply just ignore them, they win.

So ignore them, but still talk to other players, from experience, it's what pisses them off more. They don't make you shut up and they clearly see you just ignore them. When someone insults me, I do that, that makes them rage for a bit and then they quickly shut up once they realize they got excluded and that no one cares about them.
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I have red this entire wall.

now its your turn
 
Old 06-22-2012, 05:08 PM   #10
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There is no cure for stupidity, but you can piss them off back, but do it cleverly.

If you talk back to them, you feed their stupidity, they think you're pissed off, they win.
If you don't, they think they shut your mouth with their insults, when you simply just ignore them, they win.

So ignore them, but still talk to other players, from experience, it's what pisses them off more. They don't make you shut up and they clearly see you just ignore them. When someone insults me, I do that, that makes them rage for a bit and then they quickly shut up once they realize they got excluded and that no one cares about them.
Thanks.
 
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TL;DR, learn to make posts that don't discourage the reader from reading them
 
Old 06-22-2012, 05:22 PM   #12
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TL;DR
I bet its qq
 
Old 06-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #13
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Thing is there are fuckton of Russians who speak only in cyrilic and refuse to use English at all, thus making it impossible to communicate with. Also add in Russian history of 20th century and you get the picture why are you hated in Europe.
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Behind the computer and with anonymity, I think that answer everything
 
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Thing is there are fuckton of Russians who speak only in cyrilic and refuse to use English at all, thus making it impossible to communicate with. Also add in Russian history of 20th century and you get the picture why are you hated in Europe.
This guy speaks the truth!

OT. OP has watched too much MLP. No one will love and tolerate the fuck out of you!
 
Old 06-22-2012, 06:58 PM   #16
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This guy speaks the truth!

OT. OP has watched too much MLP. No one will love and tolerate the fuck out of you!
never did watch the following show or expect love and toleration
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:02 PM   #17
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Thing is there are fuckton of Russians who speak only in cyrilic and refuse to use English at all, thus making it impossible to communicate with. Also add in Russian history of 20th century and you get the picture why are you hated in Europe.
the thing is, i am a human who was born in russia
if you cannot see that i am first an individual who did not do anything of the above, then you are a horrible attempt at parodying humans
pls go
 
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I got so discouraged I red the entire post on the wall of text picture I posted.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:17 PM   #19
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I know that feeling bro.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:56 PM   #20
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I would agree with you but the thing is most of this racism is based on actual fact and experience. The large majority of russian players cant or refuse to speak english and communicate with their team and play bad as a direct result. Ignoring this fact is being ignorant and lying to yourself.

Also as you said every human is an individuality. Some are superior and some are inferior. Inteligence is determined by genetics + growing environment and because the government of Russia supports an ignorant way of life and spills propaganda a large number of russians are relatively uneducated and unopen to other cultures wether by their own choice or influence from their parents.

I've met lots of inteligent and understanding russians both in and out of Dota2 and I judge first by individuality but if someone is easy to be distinguished from the rest by his writing and attitude then he deserves to get flamed.

Also raging teenagers like to use this theory as an excuse to meaningless racism and call everyone who they dont like russian and etc because thats just how their little brains work so basically you shouldnt hate the idea of generalisation but the stupid people who misuse it because they need an excuse to hate somebody.
 
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