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Old 10-26-2009, 07:57 PM   #1
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Bard's Flute (550)


+3 or 9 Strength
+3 or 9 Agility
+3 or 9 Intelligence
Playing: X (Passive)
Play: Y (Active)

Cannot carry more than one.

Playing: Heroic Rush
Nearby allies and you have their attack damage increased by 3% and an additional 3.
Does not stack with another "Heroic Rush", but stacks with other damage auras like Command Aura.

Playing: The Calm
Nearby allies and you have their health regeneration increased by 3 per second.
Does not stack with another "The Calm", but stacks with other auras like Regeneration Aura.

Playing: Elune's Blessing
Nearby allies and you have their movement speed increased by 20.
Does not stack with another "Elune's Blessing", but stacks with other MS bonuses.

Playing: Rise of the Ancients
Nearby enemies have a 15% chance to miss when attacking.
Does not stack with another "Rise of the Ancients", but stacks with skills like Blind. True Strike negates this miss chance.

Playing: Arcane Tension
Nearby enemies have their spell resistance reduced by 10%.
Does not stack with another "Arcane Tension", but stacks with auras like Natural Order.

Play: Y
Plays the next song. If you are playing Arcane Tension, you start playing Heroic Rush, etc.

One Bard's Flute creates only one aura at a time. The AOE is 800.
Early Imba.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

Good concept but icon is already used and 1st song give +3 damage and +3%? it gives +6dmg wheni have 100 dmg it's not many.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:06 PM   #3
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

Yea.. but +6.. and +9 (stats) at early game will be strong lol.

+Creeps and every1 get +6 dmg.. 800 aoe..

Firstly I though of +7 damage aura.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:07 PM   #4
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

Ow.. yea it's used. I can "not so easily" changed this icon, or simply change the icon for the quaterstaff, many icons will fit that.

This is imbalanced, but I personally love the concept.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:32 PM   #5
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

Ohey, I love the concept. It's only-early game item not to carry it to late-game. There's a con: this item maybe put others early game item in the bench.. But let's review!

Recipe: It's kinda of cheap for such "big" bonuses for early-game. A question: It's +3 all or +9 specifc stat. You have to choose +3 to all or +9 in a specifc stat?

Heroic Rush: Ok.

The Calm: Imba, the regen is +3 (aura) for 550 gold when Headdress of Rejuvenation gives regen +2 (aura) for 603 gold. Need change.

Elune's Blessing: +20 ms bonus seems too much for me, maybe +10 or +5 it's okay.

Rise of the Ancients: Whoa dude, +15% for 550 when Talisman of Evasion gives +25% for 1800! Put +5% or +10% dodge.

Arcane Tension: -10% Spell Resistance (enemies) isn't too much for early game?

Overall: For me the % bonuses does not have to pass more than 10% for such a cheap item. The concept is realy good but need some balances. Question: No cooldown? Instant or 1 sec?

Good Job, T-Up. And also I'll check some Icons and suggest here 4 you if you don't mind. :P
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:38 PM   #6
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

No cooldown, Instant change seems good.. Yea.. hard to balance. Resist aura seems stupid. I could raise the price..

Otherwise:
It's stupid to change from first song to 5th.. in 5 seconds.. no sense.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:00 PM   #7
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

I love the concept. Expect a detailed break down and review soon.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:09 PM   #8
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

They are acctualy Horns but can fit with some changes.


Code:
ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNHornOfCenarius.blp

Code:
ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNHornOfFog.blp

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ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNLionHorn.blp
But I vote for change the Quarterstaff Icon, because the current icon is a flute not a staff. Maybe can be like this.. a staff who gives damage:



But keep the quarterstaff icon it fit's better than nothing you may suggest a Icon for quarterstaff at Visuals section and put the link here and vice-versa so the others can see why the change. And if you make any changes please put the changelog.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:10 PM   #9
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An item that is a recipe is not a basic item.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:44 PM   #10
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Default Re: [BASIC SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

Thanks for the icons.. I guess this horn looks nice:



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An item that is a recipe is not a basic item.
kk, changed.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:55 PM   #11
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Default Re: [SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

1) Price overall is too low. An Ogre Axe, Blade of Alacrity, or Staff of Wizardry costs 1000 and adds 10 to either stat. If I am right, your item adds 9 to either for 450 less and has those nifty songs. By the way, as like what -Yuuh™ said, is that +3 to all and +9 to one status or something?

Forget my lengthy and detailed review. -Yuuh™ pretty much said everything I wanted to say.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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Depends what you use to make this item:

The stats can be:

+3 all stats +6 STR (gauntlets x2)
OR
+3 all stats +6 AGI (slippers x2)
OR
+3 all stats +6 INT (mantle x2)

After you make this item, the bonus cant be changed (unless you sell this item and make a new one).


I'll think about this item 2morrow. Ill make it more expensive + song tweaks.




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But keep the quarterstaff icon it fit's better than nothing you may suggest a Icon for quarterstaff at Visuals section and put the link here and vice-versa so the others can see why the change. And if you make any changes please put the changelog.
Ill add a changelog.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:12 PM   #13
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Default Re: [SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

cool idea!
i would like to see something which has to do with music in dota.
but dont change the icon..suggest to change quarterstaffs icon =D
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:18 PM   #14
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this idea WILL turn off the scripters...

add custom music for every song played meaning each different song played plays a different music for the wielder of item unless song played is recycled back to 1st.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:30 PM   #15
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Hey ya Drikam, I've suggested the new icon for quarterstaff at visuals. Check it out: [ICON] Quarterstaff
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:31 PM   #16
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Default Re: [SUPPORT ITEM] Bard's Flute

You are insane... You make an item which has same concept with your sig idea... I love it.

But, can It be implemented? Coz it's an item not a skill. If can, how to choose the song or music?
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:43 PM   #17
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You are insane... You make an item which has same concept with your sig idea... I love it.

But, can It be implemented? Coz it's an item not a skill. If can, how to choose the song or music?
To change is simple, is like Power Treads. Press and the next song will play.

Ex: Heroic Rush > The Calm > Elune's Blessing > Rise of the Ancients > Arcane Tension > Heroic Rush > ...
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:43 PM   #18
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that i dont know, i am not a scripter... should have said that it MIGHT also not be possible all-together :P
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:47 PM   #19
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imagine all 5 heroes in the team has one of it and they all use the different auras...its imba early/mid game push...gotta make it more expensive or make the auras non-stackable with any of the other auras from the item
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:53 PM   #20
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nice concept, funny item
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