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Old 07-10-2009, 08:18 AM   #1
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Grimface the Skeletal Orc Champion

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• Renamed Passage of the Dead to Path of the Damned.
• Rescaled the bonuses from Cursed Axe.
• Cursed Axe now doesn't stack with Quelling Blade.
Hero Introduction
Grimface, what seems to be a simple hero with 2 passive abilities and 2 abilities with somewhat long cooldown, could turn out to be a tactical hero that can turn the tide of the game very quickly. His plays a powerful pusher role, and can take on the role of a dps-tank or ganker. His ability to teleport, jungle, survey and come out with threatening speed makes him a hero that can easily fit into teamplay. Given some items, Grimface himself can form a force to be reckoned with. Teams facing him will have difficulty in making decisions of whether to defend against his pushes first, or to destroy him.

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Background Story
Grimface was a champion grunt of the Stormreaver Clan, and served under the command of the Warlock Gul'dan. During an assignment to defend the Horde's positions at Stormwind and Balor, Gul'dan led his clan to the Tomb of Sargeras, intending on unearthing the power of the Sargeras to his own favor. As a result of betraying the Doomhammer, the whole Stormreaver Clan was slain, both by Doomhammer and Guardians of the Tomb. Grimface, who fought valiantly against the Guardians, eventually succumbed to death amidst the supernatural sorcery of the Guardians. Now Grimface wanders the surface world as a mindless bony remains of once a champion orc, only to be exploited by the Lich King to serve for under his command with new unholy power.

Pros
• 4 abilities that support pushes.
• Has excellent mobility, pseudo-ward and crowd control abilities.
• Flexible builds to fit into many roles.


Cons
• No disabling abilities.
• Weak against AOE spells / disablers.
• Unable to use orb effect items.


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Stats

Strength : 21 + 2.7
Agility : 19 + 2.1
Intelligence : 13 + 1.4


Affiliation : Scourge
Attack Range : 128 (Melee)
Damage : 52 - 54
Armor : 3.2
Movespeed : 290
Attack Animation : 0.57/0.45
Casting Animation : 0.36/0.52
Base Attack Time : 1.8
Missile Speed : Instant
Sight Range : 1800/800


Ability 1

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Path of the Damned [F]

Concept
Grimface's connection with the dead allows him to emerge from a visible corpse at any point of the map. The further the corpse is, the longer the delay.

Numbers & Mechanics
Level 1 - 60 seconds cooldown.
Level 2 - 50 seconds cooldown.
Level 3 - 40 seconds cooldown.
Level 4 - 30 seconds cooldown.

Mana Cost : 50
Cooldown : 60/50/40/30

1000 range and below : 0 casting time.
1001 range to 2000 range : 1 second casting time.
2001 range and above : 3 second casting time.
Ability 2

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Restless Spirits [R]

Concept
Grimface is able to feel the restless spirits of the dead which excites him. Nearby corpses provides him sight over them, as well as increasing his movespeed and damage.

Numbers & Mechanics
Each 0.2 seconds a trigger checks how much corpse is near Grimface and he gets a buff for 0.2 seconds. Each corpse gives 1% bonus ms and 2% bonus damage, up to 40% bonus ms and 80% bonus damage.

Level 1 - Small area.
Level 2 - Medium area.
Level 3 - Large area.
Level 4 - Very large area.

(Passive)

• Damage bonus only affects base damage and damage from stats.
Ability 3

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Cursed Axe [C] (orb effect)

Concept
Grimface wields an axe cursed with necromancy which grants him bonus damage against lesser mortals, and those slain by Grimface will be brought back to life to fight for him.

Numbers & Mechanics
Level 1 - 12% bonus damage. 1 unit max. Lasts 30 seconds.
Level 2 - 20% bonus damage. 1 unit max. Lasts 40 seconds.
Level 3 - 28% bonus damage. 2 units max. Lasts 50 seconds.
Level 4 - 36% bonus damage. 3 units max. Lasts 60 seconds.

(Passive)

• Does not stack with Quelling Blade.
• Units resurrected by Cursed Axe are summoned units.
• Units resurrected by Cursed Axe do not give gold/exp when killed.
• If maximum number of units is reached, the latest kills will not be resurrected.
• Damage bonus from Restless Spirits is checked first before the damage bonus from Cursed Axe.
• Damage bonus only affects base damage and damage from stats.
• Units summoned by Cursed Axe contributes to Restless Spirits bonuses.
• Enemies killed under Cursed Axe retain their full health and abilities. (Does not work on heroes, mechanical units and magic-immune units)

Sub Skill

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Inanimate [E]
Instantly kills this animated unit.
Ultimate Ability

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Army of Darkness [D]

Concept
Grimface lets loose a chilling roar, awakening the army of darkness to his bidding which instantly kills all nearby enemy creeps, and turning all corpses into lesser Skeletal Warriors to fight for him.

Numbers & Mechanics
Level 1 - Skeletal Warriors last 15 seconds.
Level 2 - Skeletal Warriors last 30 seconds.
Level 3 - Skeletal Warriors last 45 seconds.

Mana Cost : 200
Cooldown : 120
AOE : 900

• Skeletal Warrior contributes to Restless Spirits bonuses.
• Skeletal Warrior has 22-26 Normal damage, 1 Armor and 400 HP
Synergy

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Detect enemy hero who is jungling and has low health, teleport in, gain bonus from corpses, kill.

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Speed and damage for laning or jungle/gank strat.

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Teleport and defend.

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Teleport, bring undead creeps along, speed, damage, massive army, push. Rinse and repeat.

Worst Enemies

This stun-happy tauren is more than glad to see Grimface's ultimate, as it will only increase his Echo Slam's damage output. He can waste your ultimate in a blink, and with his stuns, your speed does not matter to him. His allies will pound on you while you're kept stunned.


Midnight Pulse and Black Hole will practically eat up your skeletons like np, and his Demonic Conversion can take out your precious undead creep. While you're fumbling with your dead army and trying to run, he will Malefice you, and his allies will pound on you while you're kept stunned.


Rain of Fire will take care of your army, while Expulsion will reduce corpses one by one, dealing damage and ministunning. He can also teleport like you can, and he has a 3 second disabler that will put your speed to halt.


Your army will just contribute to his Soul Rip, and he has his own zombie army to fight with your skeleton army. Stopping the push effectively. Not just that, he can transform into a big fat golem that will probably negate your speed bonus, while making you more vulnerable to damage.


They have no problem dealing with large waves, bombing them to oblivion. Just when you thought you got him, he suicides.


Invoker has so many spells under his sleeves that he can counter your every move. His AOE power will overwhelm your army, his Ice Wall and Ghost Walk slows you terribly regardless of your speed bonus, and he also has stuns and attack silencing spells that totally disables you to do anything useful.

Useful Allies

Sven can stun, and that's going to help you both to kill an enemy. With War Cry, both Grimface and his army will benefit from the speed and armor, and while you're out of ultimate, Sven's Cleave with his God's Strength is there to continue the push to victory.


Her Command Aura is useful for you and your army. She can also soften enemy waves with Wave of Terror, and finally she can Swap that pesky defending hero to you, stunning him while you pound on him.


Although she is only useful to Grimface in 2 ways, it's good enough. Her Ensnare, Crit & Image combined with your Attack Speed can easily waste an enemy hero. The best thing however, is that her Song of the Siren will let your ultimate to gain full potential. Your army will happily destroy their bases quickly while they're asleep.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:41 AM   #2
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Default Re: [SCOURGE-STR] Grimface the Skeletal Orc Champi

great icons! great model! whats not to love? t up

I hope your first skill only works for corpses you have vision of.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: [SCOURGE-STR] Grimface the Skeletal Orc Champi

Thanks! Yes, you can only teleport to corpses you have vision of. It's not as powerful as Prophet's Teleport. If you are at Sent bottom, you won't have enough coverage to detect corpses in Scourge's top lane jungle even if the skill is level 4.
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loved the concept. T-up. there's no numbers yet? i am curious about army of darkness cd..
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:02 AM   #5
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T-up! I love it. Hope IceFrog import it in the game.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:02 AM   #6
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T-Up
I like this, although the Str-Scourge tavern is full -.-
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:16 AM   #7
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Default Re: [SCOURGE-STR] Grimface the Skeletal Orc Champi

I made a thread in the suggestions forum to move Slardar into Neutral Strength, that will remove the problem!
I love the Inanimate spell you added in, the power to create a corpse on command, can be helpful for aggresive ganks, for when you're in danger you can retreat to your freshly created corpse.
gj again!
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:32 AM   #8
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Default Re: [SCOURGE-STR] Grimface the Skeletal Orc Champi

Thanks all! I didn't even thought of using undead creep as an escape tool. Great point there.

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loved the concept. T-up. there's no numbers yet? i am curious about army of darkness cd..
Yes there are suggested numbers.
It looks like this.

The AOE, cooldown, mana cost, skeleton's stats and duration can be changed to balance it. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:57 AM   #9
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Wow, super pusher T-up. I have waited for someone to suggest this model for so long!

+3rd skill bonus damage is like QBlade? I have nothing against it but isn't it a little boring to play a hero with too many passives (Ex: Leoric)
And will it stack with QB???

+"Travel of the Dead" ... how about Way of the Dead/Dead Way/Flight of the Dead? "Travel" somehow is too human-like for a damn rocking skeleton

+And the sub skill Inanimate is a targeting skill right?
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:30 AM   #10
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Really awesome hero ... speaks for itself ... really cool concept AND numbers(allthough a little tweaking wont harm)...T-WAAAYYYY UUUUP
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:57 AM   #11
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Really awesome... Best icon sets I've ever seen actually...

But one problem, remove the abilities getted by the unit killed by cursed axe...

It is rather imba I think since you can get upto 4 abilites aren't you?
Although it lasts only 60 seconds, it can be imba...
Also I think it's already good enough without abilities... Maybe you can increase the maximum unit you can have instead of it...

Overall.... VERY NICE! T-UP!
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:01 PM   #12
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very nice icons
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:04 PM   #13
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t-up on concept but i'd suggest giving him some form of corpse generating skill since otherwise relying on creep corpses alone is kinda meh
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:46 PM   #14
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This hero is designed very well, skills are very original, and even if his 3rd skill is almost the same like QB it is still very good. I suggest you to add special abilities to summoned units by his ult. T-up =)
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This is awesome, icons are beutiful!!

But I dont like the way the passive works:

passive which increases your attack speed and ms speed for 10 seconds?

I would like:
Each 0.2 seconds a trigger checks how much corpse are near you and you get a buff for 0.2 seconds. Same as bloodseekers bloodthrist or whats its name.
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T-up T-up T-up.

This is the first hero I ever supported. IT'S NICE I CAN'T WAIT!
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I loved this hero and his concept!

Awesome job!
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Wow, super pusher T-up. I have waited for someone to suggest this model for so long!

+3rd skill bonus damage is like QBlade? I have nothing against it but isn't it a little boring to play a hero with too many passives (Ex: Leoric)
And will it stack with QB???

+"Travel of the Dead" ... how about Way of the Dead/Dead Way/Flight of the Dead? "Travel" somehow is too human-like for a damn rocking skeleton

+And the sub skill Inanimate is a targeting skill right?
I've found a better word 'Passage of the Dead'. Sounds creepier. By the way, which is better? Targeting for Inanimate or sub skill in the creep itself? (ala Weaver's Scarab)

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Really awesome... Best icon sets I've ever seen actually...

But one problem, remove the abilities getted by the unit killed by cursed axe...

It is rather imba I think since you can get upto 4 abilites aren't you?
Although it lasts only 60 seconds, it can be imba...
Also I think it's already good enough without abilities... Maybe you can increase the maximum unit you can have instead of it...

Overall.... VERY NICE! T-UP!
Actually the micro needed meaning newbies would suck at it, while pros will be using it effectively. You really think it needed the change?
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I'm a little concerned about his damage..

I think this hero will be item dependant
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I'm a little concerned about his damage..

I think this hero will be item dependant
Yes if he is to be a dps-tank, but he can push fairly well with simple items. His main role is to play as a pusher hero, so as long as he survives, it's ok. Early game he can jungle or lane as he can last hit effectively. Undead creep can be used to harass your lane opponent.
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