[REMAKE] Necronomicon

Ramodkk · 07-10-2009, 09:13 PM

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Necronomicon

Summons a Necronomicon Warrior and a Necronomicon Archer. Lasts 35 seconds, costs 50/75/100 mana, and has a 90/80/70 second cooldown.

Justification: Currently, Necrobook's active remains the same as far as cooldown and manacost. I think it should improve per level. Manacost increases as well (+25 per level) but, by the time you get Necronomicon Level 3, 50 more mana cost will be doable. This manacost increase is just a minor balance as to not have a buff on cooldown alone. What do you think?

Zirath · 07-10-2009, 09:38 PM

I <3 Necrobook. So I think its a great idea. But I'm probably impartial as a result.

JaCKaSS_69 · 07-10-2009, 09:44 PM

Great idea. T-Up imo. A strong but currently outdated/outclassed item. :X

Cp6uja · 07-11-2009, 12:14 AM

I don't know, they are already one of those great/OP units in the game. I see nothing wrong with lvl 2 and lvl 3 necros, since they are uber-good. Also, they gain true sight, and have increased all kinds of abilities. Its a great buff to this item. It sure does helps you, but also it can annoy you too if you play against.

I'm neutrall here.

Ramodkk · 07-11-2009, 01:24 AM

I didn't mean to make it seem like I think Levels 2 & 3 have something wrong (lol confusing sentence)

But you have a point. Maybe increasing the manacost as well. (50/75/100)

fruta · 07-11-2009, 03:01 AM

T-up for decreasing the irritating long item cooldown

Zack1996 · 07-11-2009, 03:15 AM

Yep, the Cooldown should decrease. Dagon has a 40/36/32/28/24 seconds cooldown... This has a 90 all level...
T-UP!

LulzYeah · 07-11-2009, 03:34 AM

Should be constant 60 secs at all level. Mana costs increase per level is not necessary . Waiting for more changes before voting.

Edit : Maybe 70 secs at all level?

fruta · 07-11-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LulzYeah

Should be constant 60 secs at all level. Mana costs increase per level is not necessary . Waiting for more changes before voting.

that's too much, making it imba.

king_james · 07-11-2009, 05:34 AM

Its more of a buff/nerf.

You increased the Mana cost, but decreased the cooldown.

Still, T-up.

Anaroth · 07-11-2009, 05:41 AM

the cd is okay.. so t-up 4 me..lol

fruta · 07-11-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by king_james

Its more of a buff/nerf.

You increased the Mana cost, but decreased the cooldown.

Still, T-up.

hmm not really. mana cost doesn't matter that much, cooldown does.

chadpiety123 · 07-11-2009, 06:11 AM

First thought BEFORE I actually read your post was "wtf!? Necro buff? Is that even needed."

But after reading your actual post, I thought your proposition is really nice. More mana consumption for less the cooldown. Seems cool.

gayau · 07-11-2009, 06:24 AM

as a necrobook lover, t-up

warp0 · 07-11-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

I don't know, they are already one of those great/OP units in the game. I see nothing wrong with lvl 2 and lvl 3 necros, since they are uber-good. Also, they gain true sight, and have increased all kinds of abilities. Its a great buff to this item. It sure does helps you, but also it can annoy you too if you play against.

I'm neutrall here.

I agree. Love the book but it will be annoying as to play against in quite a few cases. But I'll happily stay neutral.

Drikam · 07-11-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by king_james

Its more of a buff/nerf.

You increased the Mana cost, but decreased the cooldown.

Still, T-up.

The mana cost increase is mega low.
T-up, its a buff.

I dont think that necro is imba, but 100 seconds cooldown is way too much - its like a good ulti, and necro is not an ulti.

Ramodkk · 07-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Thanks so far everyone

king_james · 07-11-2009, 06:20 PM

Of course, we love you Ramorar. Or... is it just those +1 posts.

This will make Necrobook more viable and useable.

qlq · 07-11-2009, 07:08 PM

Seems like a nice and reasonable rebalancing. T-up from me.

Ramodkk · 07-12-2009, 05:11 PM

Bump

Looks like it could get implemented

07-10-2009, 09:38 PM	#2
Zirath Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wherever Posts: 1,836	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon I <3 Necrobook. So I think its a great idea. But I'm probably impartial as a result. __________________ While I have partially returned to the forums, I am still not making test maps. If you have a small request, you can PM and I will try to work something out, but I do not have the time to make full test maps.

07-10-2009, 09:44 PM	#3
JaCKaSS_69 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,140	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Great idea. T-Up imo. A strong but currently outdated/outclassed item. :X __________________ 98% of people have no idea of mechanics, if you are one of the 2% nerds put this in your sig

07-11-2009, 12:14 AM	#4
Cp6uja Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 19,043 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon I don't know, they are already one of those great/OP units in the game. I see nothing wrong with lvl 2 and lvl 3 necros, since they are uber-good. Also, they gain true sight, and have increased all kinds of abilities. Its a great buff to this item. It sure does helps you, but also it can annoy you too if you play against. I'm neutrall here. __________________ Increase DotA Speed Free Steam game PDIH RGC Dotalicious-Gaming Increase DotA speed for about 10 fps here. Want fast and stable DotA? Go here! Team Fortress 2 is now FREE TO DOWNLOAD! How to join is here under How to Apply/Join. League with Reconnection Tool, Stats tracking, no Leavers and multiaccounts. CLICK

07-11-2009, 01:24 AM	#5
Ramodkk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: There → Posts: 736	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon I didn't mean to make it seem like I think Levels 2 & 3 have something wrong (lol confusing sentence) But you have a point. Maybe increasing the manacost as well. (50/75/100) __________________ formerly Ramomar

07-11-2009, 03:01 AM	#6
fruta Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,598	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon T-up for decreasing the irritating long item cooldown

07-11-2009, 03:15 AM	#7
Zack1996 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore! Posts: 1,265	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Yep, the Cooldown should decrease. Dagon has a 40/36/32/28/24 seconds cooldown... This has a 90 all level... T-UP!

07-11-2009, 03:34 AM	#8
LulzYeah Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Meh.. Posts: 2,534 Blog Entries: 7	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Should be constant 60 secs at all level. Mana costs increase per level is not necessary . Waiting for more changes before voting. Edit : Maybe 70 secs at all level?

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07-11-2009, 05:34 AM	#10
king_james Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Makati City, Philippines Posts: 4,153 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Its more of a buff/nerf. You increased the Mana cost, but decreased the cooldown. Still, T-up. __________________ My pride and honor:

07-11-2009, 05:41 AM	#11
Anaroth Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: msia Posts: 406	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon the cd is okay.. so t-up 4 me..lol __________________

07-11-2009, 06:11 AM	#13
chadpiety123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,662	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon First thought BEFORE I actually read your post was "wtf!? Necro buff? Is that even needed." But after reading your actual post, I thought your proposition is really nice. More mana consumption for less the cooldown. Seems cool. __________________ Hi, I'm new here. Hope people could help me out start a new suggestion!

07-11-2009, 06:24 AM	#14
gayau Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 63	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon as a necrobook lover, t-up

07-11-2009, 04:59 PM	#17
Ramodkk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: There → Posts: 736	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Thanks so far everyone __________________ formerly Ramomar

07-11-2009, 06:20 PM	#18
king_james Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Makati City, Philippines Posts: 4,153 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Of course, we love you Ramorar. Or... is it just those +1 posts. This will make Necrobook more viable and useable. __________________ My pride and honor:

07-11-2009, 07:08 PM	#19
qlq Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the abyss of the unknown Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Seems like a nice and reasonable rebalancing. T-up from me. __________________ removed due to severe case of butthurt

07-12-2009, 05:11 PM	#20
Ramodkk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: There → Posts: 736	Re: [ITEM BUFF]Necronomicon Bump Looks like it could get implemented __________________ formerly Ramomar