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Old 07-10-2009, 11:16 PM   #1
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Default [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut


In this Topic i humbly suggest a changing the model of Juggernaut into a model which would fit
his Affiliation to the Sentinel.

we all know that the Orcs who drank from the Defiled Fountain got affected by the blood and
Joined the scourge in their fight.

Their Skin Turned from green into red, even looks changed.

So what im proposing Since Juggernaut is on the sentinel side. why his model is Chaos model
of the Blademaster, it should be the original model of the Blademaster.

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if you played WCIII campaign you'll find yurnero has a green skin color & as far as i remember & know that Yurnero didnt die so appearing in dota is not a problem.

Since i suggested earlier a name for Omni knight as "Purist LightBringer" most of reviewers T-downed the Suggestion because they believe that Purist is not the sun of Uther Light Bringer & he cant be named after him.

So The Original Yurnero is still alive so he wont change his beliefs & concepts to turn into a chaos orc.
So Changing The model Would be much more precise & based on Yurnero history OR Juggernaut Name should be changed since The Original Yurnero didnt Die.

so Changing the model to make the original story goes along with Dota.

Current Model




Proposed Model





Points to be taken in consideration:

- The Current Model "Chaos BladeMaster" Fits Scourge much more than Sentinel.
- The Current Model Look like a hero filled with hatered and Demonic Powers.
- The Current Model Doesnt Fit Sentinel Side where orcs have green skin color.
- The Current Model Look much more evil than being a hero that defend his land.
- Proposed Model Fits the Sentinel Side.
- Proposed Model Look like an Honored Hero who would die for his ancient.
- Both Models are in WCIII Engine - There will be No MSI

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Old 07-10-2009, 11:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

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- The Current Model "Chaos BladeMaster" Fits Scourge much more than Sentinel.
- The Current Model Look like a hero filled with hatered and Demonic Powers.
- The Current Model Doesnt Fit Sentinel Side where orcs have green skin color.
- The Current Model Look much more evil than being a hero that defend his land.
- Proposed Model Fits the Sentinel Side.
- Proposed Model Look like an Honored Hero who would die for his ancient.
- Both Models are in WCIII Engine - There will be No MSI


Well, I agree with your suggestion and I also think we can make another hero named ''Chaos BladeMaster'' or something like this. What do you think DotA comunity?
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:51 PM   #3
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

This is one of the most suggested thing ever, and I still don't know why Ice doesn't want it in. Good luck, but it has been suggested zillions of times at DA, and its an ancient sugg. Hardly something is going to happen.
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:10 AM   #4
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

Both models are beautiful, but i agree 100% lorewise that he should be GREEN. DotA lacks green skinned orcs in the first place (lion+axe are chaos orcs)

Thumbs up, definitely one of the most debated suggestions
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:41 AM   #5
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

This has been suggested millions of times. It's a great idea; Axe already has the fel orc blademaster model (except slightly different... same animations). It probably won't get implemented, though.
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:56 AM   #6
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

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This is one of the most suggested thing ever, and I still don't know why Ice doesn't want it in. Good luck, but it has been suggested zillions of times at DA, and its an ancient sugg. Hardly something is going to happen.
It's a logical suggestion however there is a reason for it never being implemented. Phantom lancer uses the green blademasters model. It has a custom skin for it which both gives the phantom lancer his appearance and overwirtes the original skin for blademaster. Thus the green blademaster model is unable to be used.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:10 AM   #7
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

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Phantom lancer uses the green blademasters model
No. Phantom Lancer uses the Grom Hellscream model. Axe uses the Grom Hellscream Possessed model. Thus, the Green Blademaster model is still available.
T-Up. Makes too much sense to be T-Downed.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:57 AM   #8
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

errr....
it could be...why not
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:48 AM   #9
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

Should make omnislash a regular skill, and make his ultimate chaos blademaster.

Or simply make his ultimate chaos blademaster, which gives him some new abilities, omnislash being one of them.
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

I t-up. Its a good thing to do, because Yurnero is in the Sentinel side, and chaos orcs aren't supposed to be in the side of the Sentinel. Giving him green skin gives him a more of a Sentinel feel.

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Old 07-11-2009, 05:40 AM   #11
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

this one fits but I still like the current one, no idea why.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:41 AM   #12
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

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this one fits but I still like the current one, no idea why.
Because you've been so used to the old model. The proposed model looks so much better.
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:13 AM   #13
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

Red > Green period. It is just him, wouldn't be Juggy without it. If you want a more serious explanation I'll say that the icon for Chaos Blademaster looks more Jugg then the normal one and the sword for chaos looks slightly better with the yellow tinge. Also its like he is the counterpart of Axe. One uses the Axe one uses the Sword. Making him green will make him the opposite which for some reason just isn't as cool.
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

I think Jugg becoming green is a great idea.Hope Icefrog changes Jugg to green skin.
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:09 AM   #15
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T-up..

But it will be much better if he will turn to a chaos blademaster when he uses omnislash..
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

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T-up..

But it will be much better if he will turn to a chaos blademaster when he uses omnislash..
T-up for this idea
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Current is fine.
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But him on natural?
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:30 AM   #19
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:O, would that change the skill colour for omnislash too green? too make it more themed towards senitals?
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

here we go for the 100 time.

look ice picked red model end of story.no need for this suggestion red model will stay because it looks cooler and fits the theme of juggernaut.

Points that you forgot:

red one have cool tattoos.
red one have cooler icon
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

You make a good point. Like the effect on Pugna when he gets Scepter? That might make sense
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

the current jugg is cool. he seems dark and stuff which is ok cause not all sentinels are paladins. omniknight alvays seemed one-sided character to me.
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here we go for the 100 time.

look ice picked red model end of story.no need for this suggestion red model will stay because it looks cooler and fits the theme of juggernaut.

Points that you forgot:

red one have cool tattoos.
red one have cooler icon
red one have cooler sword
red one have cooler flag
dude chill... its just a suggestion.. not that big deal.. we are here to give icefrog the most support we can.. if he liked it he would implement it.. if not its ok.. its not goin to be the end of the world..
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dude chill... its just a suggestion.. not that big deal.. we are here to give icefrog the most support we can.. if he liked it he would implement it.. if not its ok.. its not goin to be the end of the world..
LOL, that other dude was high.

I still say T-up. Anything goes, IMO.
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T-down
Current is fine plus the Fel (Chaos) one is more intimidating than the Orc Blademaster model
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t-up whe have chen now tauren, rhasta we need the other orc hero
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:56 AM   #27
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Default Re: [MODEL] Yurnero, The Juggernaut

In accordance to affiliation, the green model is better. In accordance to "style and looks", the red one is better. Since some heroes have different names when picked, maybe Icefrog should implement a different model when a hero is picked. (Then there will be more models for other heroes...)
Either way, it's still good!
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Him skills are picked for red model and the current model looks better.T down
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t-up whe have chen now tauren, rhasta we need the other orc hero
Great suggestion! My vote is for Thrall's Ladder model, the Farseer.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showt...440#post111440
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I think with the introduction of the "Neutral Tavern", DOTA is being inclined to the warcarft lore more... so I guess the green orc is more fitting. Also, I like the clear-simple blade of the blademaster model (green) since it looks like the traditional katana blade. T-Up for the suggestion.
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Think simple. Just move Jugg to neutral camp no need to complicate things.
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Maybe.. butthat doesnt mean that we cant find anything green for his icon set.. anyway thanks for commenting
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You made the same suggestion on Ad forum and it was not implanted nor will this one be because ice picked red model and he won't change ti, but if you really think that model doesn't fit sentinel then make suggestion to move jugg to neutral camp and change a story a bit it is much simpler and easier.
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Lets Hope that he does.. its not a problem to keep on suggesting that.. since lots of ppl support it...
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Damn forum token expiring and getting on my nerves again, remove this shit pls...


Hmm, i dont care.
I like and actually prefer the old model, but the new one makes more sense.

Idk which to choose.
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