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Old 07-06-2012, 05:02 PM   #1
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Hello. I know there are a lot Luna threads (I myself made one a few days ago) but I want to ask about the forum's opinion on the following...

So, I figured out that a proper team won't consist of DPS heroes other than Luna, therefore not leveling aura past level one will not be crucial.

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1. Aura
2. Beam
3. Beam
4. Stats
5. Beam
6. Ult
7. Beam

Ok so far it looks pretty basic. Now if Luna has HotD by this point I think she should get 2 levels of Glaves to creep in the jungle (as there are no more than 3 creeps in all but one creep spawns). And then continue leveling up stats (and ult whenever possible) until she has considerable amount of damage for the last two levels of Glaves to kick in properly.

The Aura gives a total of 32 bonus damage, 14 at level one. 18 damage is divided in the next 3 levels. Phase Boots provides +25 damage and thus compensates for the lacking 3 levels of aura and the stats compensate for the HP bonus she would aquire if she gets PT.

Phase Boots makes Luna faster than TB and PT would make her. PT gives 25 bonus to attack speed. By leveling stats 3 times instead of aura she would have 6 bonus to her AS, which is by 19 points worse than what PT provides (the number will get smaller with further leveling of stats, obviously) and Luna would have 7 more damage with Phase Boots than she would with PT.

I think this is the best build for Luna if there is no other hero that would depend much on her aura. Your thoughts?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:06 PM   #2
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did not bother with reading wall of text.

Tl;dr Footwear? Early game you depend on your 300dmg 6cd nuke and ulti. You need speed boost not attck speed. Therefore Phase. Replace with travels in ultra lategame situation. /thread.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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I think this is the best build for Luna if there is no other hero that would depend much on her aura. Your thoughts?
Even CM/Venge switch their PT's setting from Str to Int/Agi respectivly when hitting a tower, so her aura is helpful in every game, even if just for pushing.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:14 PM   #4
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Default Re: Footware on Luna

If you are into pushing, then maxing aura helps, otherwise no.

Treads can be forgotten if you manage to farm a fast ogre axe(which you can considering you will have lifesteal+stack camps from Dominate) to make a BKB.
Phase can be a good choice & you already have game's highest starting MS.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #5
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For BKB rush builds, i prefer Tranq.

Since you dont have HotD, you lack a regen source (even if you have bottle). Tranq makes you insanely fast, sustains you and you can break it up if you feel the need, into a RoA at some point.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:00 PM   #6
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treads because she has nonexistant hp, cant really skill stats over anything, and low attack range
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:06 PM   #7
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I've seen quite a few people going Phase/Janggo on her just to be insanely fast (in a similar manner to Q/W Invokers). Seems to work really well.

I think that Treads/Phase/TBs boots are viable, albeit for different builds/playstyles/purposes. If you want to and viably can afkfarm the jungle, treads will probably help you most. Phase make her insanely fast and are great for ganking, and tranqs are good if you have a hard time early or just really need to rush a BKB (probably more of a competitive route). I usually end up going Phase, but that's just me.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:06 PM   #8
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arcane hands down. Phase looks good especially if you have to carry but arcane is the best choice in most games
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:59 PM   #9
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If good early game with lots of kills -> Phase boots & gank 24/7.
If bad early game -> threads & farm 24/7.
Never tried tranquils on her. Seems bad. I mean she's Luna, people are certainly going to do more than "4 instances of damage to her". So the speed looks more like a liability to me.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:12 PM   #10
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Skill build:

1. Aura
2. Beam
3. Beam
4. Stats
5. Beam
6. Ult
7. Beam

As long as you scale just 2 points at lvl 8&9 into bounce.There's no need for more , just max the aura.There's no need to max the glaves until your aura is maxed , however skilling stats later is dumb imo.


The Aura gives a total of 32 bonus damage, 14 at level one. 18 damage is divided in the next 3 levels. Phase Boots provides +25 damage and thus compensates for the lacking 3 levels of aura and the stats compensate for the HP bonus she would aquire if she gets PT.

Phase Boots makes Luna faster than TB and PT would make her. PT gives 25 bonus to attack speed. By leveling stats 3 times instead of aura she would have 6 bonus to her AS, which is by 19 points worse than what PT provides (the number will get smaller with further leveling of stats, obviously) and Luna would have 7 more damage with Phase Boots than she would with PT.

IMO boots on her are completely situational.I always get a sny so both hp and AS will be covered , as well as cheap damage.That's why I just let boots then go BoT(or go tranq if I gank a lot.The damage of Phase increases your DPS output lesser then PT , it gives no survivability HOWEVER mobility is important on luna so she can ult near noobs.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #11
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If good early game with lots of kills -> Phase boots & gank 24/7.
If bad early game -> threads & farm 24/7.
Never tried tranquils on her. Seems bad. I mean she's Luna, people are certainly going to do more than "4 instances of damage to her". So the speed looks more like a liability to me.
The fact that you think this is a problem for her suggests to me that you are clueless about the item as a whole and don't have a very good grasp of the hero either.

If you go tranq builds you are aiming to stay in lane without opting for a HotD rush. If you are fighting, you should only be fighting advantageous ones and not really be ganking on such a luna.

Save those sorts of things for phase / arcane builds.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:40 PM   #12
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The fact that you think this is a problem for her suggests to me that you are clueless about the item as a whole and don't have a very good grasp of the hero either.

If you go tranq builds you are aiming to stay in lane without opting for a HotD rush. If you are fighting, you should only be fighting advantageous ones and not really be ganking on such a luna.

Save those sorts of things for phase / arcane builds.
So basically run from any "non-advantageous" fight is what you're saying? FACT is she always get focused and that movement speed on tranquil sucks as you can't keep up with people under your ult. That is a bigger deal than 'staying' on lane without HotD rush.

Also, good players doesn't need HotD to stay in lane.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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If you go tranq builds you are aiming to stay in lane without opting for a HotD rush. If you are fighting, you should only be fighting advantageous ones and not really be ganking on such a luna.

Save those sorts of things for phase / arcane builds.
So the purpose is to be completely paper and sit in lane assuming no one will touch you? The thing about hotd is that you can reach more gpm clearing jungles than in lane and stack the ancients, the farm isn't even comparable. The dps and armor is just icing on the cake.
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