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Old 07-22-2012, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Rant: Dota2's Slardar model


Update 24/8/13:
At this stage i know Valve simply hate the hero:



or we have been getting trolled for about 2 years now.


must be from the same artist:

Update 25/4/13:

This thread has been going on for so long now, being bumped up from time to time, the best chance is everyone spam in their hero model forum, http://dev.dota2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=154 , you can just copy/paste the whole OP in it or just drop the link.

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ok someone actually posted/whined on the slardar model after seeing the cosmetic set (lol) but his thread is closed http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=83943.

Now where should i post mine -_- Like, seriously, slardar is hated/disliked by most of the community, why is valve insisting on that shitty model??

I guess the best chance is that everyone spam in their hero model forum, http://dev.dota2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=154 , you can copy/paste the whole OP in it or just drop the link.
backup link for pics in this thread, just in case:
http://burningsera.imgur.com/all/

Update 19/9/12:

Well naked model is out so i don't think they give a damn to his shitty model, RIP the awesome naga almighty guard, here you are, sluggish dota2 fishman:

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Update 15/8/12:
Ok i made a steam group for this, JOIN the group to show your support!!!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/slardarhardcorefan

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I believe that they buffed his upper body part (and fix his mouth) back in earlier of this year due to my rant about it at the dev forum (was a rather odd patch note so i notice that) or at least there wasn't just me who rant about it. With naga released a few days ago and she reminded me to keep ranting on slardar (this is a modified post from my post at the dev).

Current model:


IE, a fat (and short) merman version of Gremlin:
Gremlin

his mouth looked 100% like gremlin's before they fix it rofl. cybrogmatt's before and after

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Fat merman



Main rant points:
1.All the models released after TI1 are AMAZING. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING (YES, I NEED TO USE CAPS TO EMPHASIZE THAT). Seriously, look at naga, lanaya, wisp, luna, tree, ck, rubick, lycan - seriously all the later released heroes, are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. My only problems remained are the pre-TI models ES, VS and my beloved slardar. And maybe add in mirana's hair too. It is evident that great job from Valve have done so far.

2.Please play ONE game of slardar in dota1. and tell me if you are ok with the dota2 version. try to sprint to chase down anything(just move quickly across the map and imagine you have an enemy hero to chase) and get hyperstone(and threads) and lvl4 bash to hit on anything. And tell me how do you feel about that. Slardar is an amazing hero and one of the biggest factor is that his sprint and bash (animations) give the user some great pleasure. That ding ding ding sound he made by bashing and the speedy sprinting (try to understand that the speed is not extremely quick but the animation made you feel like that!!!), oh my beloved slardar <3

Dota1's model (some of them may not be the accurate naga model used in dota1 but they are referenced worthy, i am sorry i am not a graphics guy when come to these kind of stuff):

Sideview slardar, a very accurate fan's sketch. Notice the HUGE upper body part and the slim/agile looking tail/lower body, unlike the current model of FAT and short tail of slardar.

Idling, look at his sexy body (in a manly way).



Boss-liked attack animations, you DON'T want to fight that thing. You can actually tell that the trident is heavy by the looks of it. He looks like he is threatening your life, DO YOU FEEL IT?


And the bottom line is, tell me do you find this cooler or the current dota2 model:

The real naga royal guard holds his trident in a very menacing way.

The voice acting of current dota2's version is very nice so really it just comes down to tweaking the model on little details and his holding trident posture. Simply put, he is too fat (and short).

*All the pictures come from google search and ill skip the reference for this time because i am lazy.
**Some related 8months old thread: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showt...hlight=slardar

Extra: Not that i ask for this, but this is probably the coolest fan's art out there. Valve please be ambitious and keep impressing your fans PLEASE.

Surely i am not the only one who is not happy with current dota2's slardar model???

With all the love,
a huge fan of Icefrog and Valve
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #2
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here a nice thread for you about suggestion on slardar model
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:18 PM   #3
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:19 PM   #4
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #5
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That's because DotA > Dota 2.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:24 PM   #6
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He definatly need improvement yeah. I hate his tail, it looks like a shrimp tail
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:29 PM   #7
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Yeah, he looks like a slug right now. And those gloves. Dafuq were they thinking and they put those on?
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:34 PM   #8
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Slardar is one of my favorite hero. And yes, they should have some twitch about his model.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:36 PM   #9
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1.All the models released after TI1 are AMAZING. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING (YES, I NEED TO USE CAPS TO EMPHASIZE THAT). Seriously, look at naga, lanaya, wisp, luna, tree, ck, rubick, lycan - seriously all the later released heroes, are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
I disagree with Treant's model, imo he looks terrible. Really bland and lifeless model with ugly spell effects.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:49 PM   #10
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Default Re: Rant: Dota2's Slardar model

Yes, I agree. Sladar is one of the models that 100% suck compared to the WC3 one. (others would be BS and ES) One of my favorite heroes being reduced to some slug that wears BDSM gloves. zzzz
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:16 PM   #11
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here a nice thread for you about suggestion on slardar model
I know dude, but I didnt wanna necro old thread!! noted in the OP though.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:22 PM   #12
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+1 I completely agree with you, I've always thought his Dota 2 model looks like a fat slug, and he looks completely retarded. He's probably one of the only models where I actually would prefer his dota 1 model.
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I disagree with Treant's model, imo he looks terrible. Really bland and lifeless model with ugly spell effects.
I feel like treant is a WIP model (like 80% progress) but the model looks good nonetheless.
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Yes, I agree. Sladar is one of the models that 100% suck compared to the WC3 one. (others would be BS and ES) One of my favorite heroes being reduced to some slug that wears BDSM gloves. zzzz
funny i just realize that gloves look like something from BDSM haha. ye that gloves is just out of place.
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funny i just realize that gloves look like something from BDSM haha. ye that gloves is just out of place.
it wasn't a glove...it was cause by the model viewer cannot see Slardar's hand, so it becomes like that... but slardar is still ugly as fuck...
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Don't forget void, the "darkhaha".
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Don't forget void, the "darkhaha".
I think Void looks way better than the Wc3 one.
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I agree he looks like some retarded fat slug, and I hate the way he holds his twig trident, wtf. Valve please make him look as badass as Wc3 Slardar.
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I think Void looks way better than the Wc3 one.
You... can't... be.. ..serious...

Void 1 was somber, obscure, badass, Void 2 is... http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/5/5a/Face_laugh_03.mp3
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You... can't... be.. ..serious...

Void 1 was somber, obscure, badass, Void 2 is... http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/5/5a/Face_laugh_03.mp3
I don't know. But that octopus head with those sad eyes and wingle wingle walk look not sexy enough for me.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:45 PM   #22
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i agree slardar should be changed.
they made tidehunter look super badass i want slar to look badass as well
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Like that photoshop image, they just have to make his upperbody wider and add some more muscle, probably just to his texture.

About anything else, weapon or otherwise, we have the workshop for that.
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I absolutely agree about his body shape!!

His voice and texturing are extremely well done, I have no complaints there. I just wish he had a bigger upper body, especially in the shoulders and biceps. His head also looks disproportionally big. Buffing up his arms and slimming down everything below his chest would go a long way toward putting his model on the same level as, say, Lycan or OD.
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He should look muscular & his weapon should be more intimidating. I wouldn't mind having some well defined muscles & toned body like DotA slardar has. At the same time he should look like he can move really fast if he wants to.
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That's a good point, his weapon needs attention too. It just...doesn't look effective, especially when compared with pretty much any other weapon in the game. Sven, PA, Gondar, Doom, etc. ALL have amazing-looking weapons. Even SB's looks more painful than Slardar's.
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #27
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tldr:

he looks like a fat slug, we want new model
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it's very hard to match the dota 1 model of slardar because the nagas designed by blizzard are impresive to say the least (model wise) , maybe they can't make it look very similar with dota 1 for infringement purposes because it would be very easy to just port the model of blizzard w3 naga royal guard or WoW's High warlord naj'entus and name it slardar and it would be just perfect.

he looks like a snail now and I also really hate his model.
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if anyone is good with steam workshop post some modles for us to rate maybe u can save valve some time and make a few bucks ?
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^I'd love to know how if anyone has any knowledge of the workshop please pm me. From what i know is that i will need use a 3D software like maya etc to work on which is quite crazy :<

Also, i feel like this is the model problem but not something that the items addon can fix it.
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it's very hard to match the dota 1 model of slardar because the nagas designed by blizzard are impresive to say the least (model wise) , maybe they can't make it look very similar with dota 1 for infringement purposes because it would be very easy to just port the model of blizzard w3 naga royal guard or WoW's High warlord naj'entus and name it slardar and it would be just perfect.

he looks like a snail now and I also really hate his model.
Look at naga. She looks exactly like she is in dota1 lol
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Why the fuck is he wearing gloves?
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Adding insult to injury to the new slardar,check THIS out!

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Look at naga. She looks exactly like she is in dota1 lol
if they have no copyright problem then valve has no excuse to make such a bad model for slardar.
there is a saying : "don't fix it if it's not broken" so they shouldn't try to overhaul good models.

I am so eager to see the dota 2 models for Tauren chieftain and Terrorblade because the w3 ones are very good.
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I don't know. But that octopus head with those sad eyes and wingle wingle walk look not sexy enough for me.
The model itself is bad, the concept is good though.
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The model itself is bad, the concept is good though.
i actually miss that retarded wiggle wiggle walking look LOL the new void is fine though.

Slardar needs a revision on his current model for sure. Make this thread huge guys.
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I agree whit dota slardar model being > than dota 2 model (crappy)
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Slardar looked so fucking tanky in D1.
Now, not really.
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Yes. I like dota1's slardar than his dota2 counterpart. Though his portrait looks good, the body feels wrong. They can increase his upper body so that his head will not look big. And please get rid of those gloves... XD
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