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Old 11-05-2009, 04:38 AM   #1
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Lightbulb [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile


It's a "HEAT SEEKING MISSILE" and invis heroes produce heat. Don't they?

So, I propose this remake

Current :
Heat Seeking Missile - (Active, Instant)
____________________The Tinker fires a rocket at the nearest visible enemy hero.


______.________._______.___._______.__________________________.
 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
112025 secondsN/A2500N/A100 damage, 1 target
214025 secondsN/A2500N/A175 damage, 1 target
316025 secondsN/A2500N/A250 damage, 2 target
418025 secondsN/A2500N/A325 damage, 2 target

Notes:
  • Damage type: magical
  • Does not hit ethereal units (such as targets of Pugna's Decrepify or heroes who use a Ghost Scepter)


Heat Seeking Missile - (Active, Instant)
____________________The Tinker fires a rocket at the nearest enemy hero.


______.________._______.___._______.__________________________.
 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
110025 secondsN/A2500N/A100 damage, 1 target
213025 secondsN/A2500N/A175 damage, 1 target
316025 secondsN/A2500N/A250 damage, 2 target
419025 secondsN/A2500N/A325 damage, 2 target

Notes:
  • Damage type: magical
  • Does not hit ethereal units (such as targets of Pugna's Decrepify or heroes who use a Ghost Scepter)
  • Hit invisible heroes
  • The missile will explode if it travels 1000/1500/2000/2500
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:44 AM   #2
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

kinda imba...
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:45 AM   #3
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

Copy Paste?

Clarify this please.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:29 AM   #4
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

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Copy Paste?

Clarify this please.
they are different.current is visible hero and suggested is hero which sends a missile from both visible and invisible.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:47 AM   #5
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

You should add a more clear description about the invisibility and fog-of-war in the post.

Maybe, "Rockets will target heroes who are invisible and/or in fog-of-war"

or something, so that people who just take a glimpse will actually see the change you made.
This sounds fun, don't know about imbaness though.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:20 AM   #6
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

Sounded good and balance with dmg nerf. T-UP
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:07 AM   #7
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T-Up from me. But nerf the damage
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:28 AM   #8
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

T-down, I do think there should be counters for long-ranged nukes like this.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:39 AM   #9
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

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T-down, I do think there should be counters for long-ranged nukes like this.
Ghost scepter...

Damage reduced...
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:24 AM   #10
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

T-Up

Looks fun. Not going to argue about the Heat-Seeking portion being scientifically correct since zombies, trees, stone giants, alien hydralisks, cold-blooded fish-men, shadow elementals and ghosts may not actually generate heat.

Actually since I did mention that up there... I'll have to suggest renaming it to "HOMING Missile" while you're at it.

If balance is still a factor, think about increasing the mana-cost as well.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:01 AM   #11
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:23 PM   #12
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

tinker runs fast enough to be able to use the skill so he doesn't need to hit enemies on the fog

If you want to hit an invi hero carry some dust/wards


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Old 11-05-2009, 04:37 PM   #13
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

This seem to be realy balanced since You reduced the AoE and damage.
Now it can finish Rikimaru/Gondar or whatever else running out with low HP's.
Half T-up because I'm not sure is it that needed.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:02 PM   #14
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

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Does not hit ethereal units (such as targets of Pugna's Decrepify or heroes who use a Ghost Scepter)
Hit invisible and heroes in fog
Make a spoiler below these for how you might want this to work like.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:57 PM   #15
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

Well, it already hits heroes in fog, if youd only suggest that it should hit invis hero, then Id TUp, but I dont like the 2 targets. I think the current one with only 1 target at all levels is better.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #16
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

I'd rather say that Tinker gets an error message if no enemy is in range.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:30 PM   #17
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

remember that a heat seeking missile is a HEAT SEEKING MISSILE!!! (heat seeking), it searches for a high temperature by itself, so it doent matter if you cant see them, so t-up.

for those that oppose, look for a name remake
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:39 PM   #18
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

The only thing that bothers me is that this thingy can be highly spammable with Tinker... now you need to see the heros you want to hit to prevent abuses with ultimate.

I dunno, for now T-null
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

^This and that previous post of mine.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:11 PM   #20
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Heat Seeking Missile

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tinker runs fast enough to be able to use the skill so he doesn't need to hit enemies on the fog

If you want to hit an invi hero carry some dust/wards


t-down.
LOL? Tinker runs fast???

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Well, it already hits heroes in fog, if youd only suggest that it should hit invis hero, then Id TUp, but I dont like the 2 targets. I think the current one with only 1 target at all levels is better.
Really? IIRC, the missile won't launch if the enemy hero is in fog.

For 1 target, I think 2 target deserves it since it's sorta random

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I'd rather say that Tinker gets an error message if no enemy is in range.
Hmm... That's good but as I said, it's "Heat Seeking Missile" so shouldn't it hit invis unit also?

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The only thing that bothers me is that this thingy can be highly spammable with Tinker... now you need to see the heros you want to hit to prevent abuses with ultimate.

I dunno, for now T-null
First, it needs great mana (but this can be easily solved)

And second, range is only 1500 which reduce the spammability of the skill
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