The Unkillable Rooftrellen, The Treant Protector
This is a guide for version 6.63x.
When there's some changes related to this guide, I'll edit it.
07/10/2009: Added and changed a lot of stuff thanks to the comments that I received. If there are still things that you don't agree, please let me know.
07/20/2009: A lot of cosmetic improvements and rewrites until the Items section.
07/21/2009: Completly reworked and improved "Playing Treant Protector" section.
07/22/2009: Added "Feared Enemies and Valuable Allies" section.
07/28/2009: Added "FAQ" section along with some answers.
I got some free time, so I wrote this guide for one of the best heroes of the game, and also one of those I like most. Just keep in mind that this guide is mainly made for experienced players, so I expect you know at least the basics on a true DotA game (like deny, last hit...).
My native language is not english, so I hope you guys can understand some possible mistakes, and I would appreciate some help to fix them :P
On pub games, Treant is not a common pick, probably because his skills doesn't includes stuffs like "use it and gives 9999999 dmg on everyone around you", but on organized games it makes a real difference for his team. All his skills are supportive, quite simple in teory, but asks for some experience to use it effectively.
Pros and Cons
[+] Very high base damage
[+] Huge survivability
[+] High Strenght growth
[+] His skills provides free wards
[+] One of the best AoE disables
[+] The only hero which can increases structures armour and is able to regen them as well
[+] Highly supportive skills
[+] Besides of the great sprite, Treant is a bit difficult to be clicked
[+] Great attack animation
[+] It's one of the most versatile heroes on DotA, being able to tank, support and/or DPS
[-] A little boring to play early game (at least for me =p)
[-] Invisibility easily countered with Dusts/Gems/whatevers
[-] Highly mana dependent to be efective played as a supporter
Skills and Personal Comments
Detailed skill information: http://www.playdota.com/heroes/99
STANDARD skill build:
1- Eyes in the Forest
2- Living Armor
3- Living Armor
4- Nature's Guise
5- Living Armor
7- Living Armor
8- Eyes in the Forest
9- Eyes in the Forest
10- Eyes in the Forest
12- Nature's Guise
24-25- Nature's Guise
As stated before, Treant is one of the most versatile heroes of DotA, so you have a plenty of item builds to choose depending of what you want to go for. You can choose between be a DPSer/Tanker or a Supporter.
Supporter Core items:
DPS/Tank Core items (Not Recommended!):
For tank, include one of these items:
After core build:
DPS Dream's build:
Supportive Dream's build:
Another item choices:
How I told up here, Dream's Build is not something that should be followed exactly how I told. Here goes a list of possible items for Treant regardless of those already stated before (don't even think about items not included here!). Please reminde me if I missed something:
Bottle and Rune Control
Bottle is not a good item for Treant, and going mid to keep the rune control is pointless, since you can place trees at rune spots and probably your ally laning mid would do a better use of the runes with a Bottle. Anyways, if happens of you find a rune, here are some tips:
- General runes information: Runes spawn every 2 minutes on ONE of the two spots, initiating on the minute 0. But there are two occasions when a rune won't spawn:
- Illusion: You can do a good use of this to atract some possible disables with one illusion before a gank try, or you can go along with the two illusions and improve your DPS combined with Overgrowth. It will hurt.
- Double Damage: Just like illusion, use it to improve your DPS in a Overgrowthed target. They will probably run if they see you with DD, so you need your ultimate or you'll just waste the rune.
- Invisible: Useless for you, let it for one ally.
- Regeneration: If you need, get it.
Playing Treant Protector
As first items, get these items:
Quelling Blade will make your last hitting a piece of cake, plus making you able to take out original trees to place fake ones as your eyes, so your enemies won't suspect of some trees randomly spread through the map and take it out. Ring of Basilus will provide some armor aura which helps you pushing better. Tango is obviously for the regeneration that your Living Armor can't provide. If it's a 5x5 game, you won't have money for everything in the beginning, so start buying a Ring of Protection, QB and one Tango, then you can finish the RoB at Goblin's shop.
Before the game begins, make sure you get Eyes in the Forest and place it next of the top rune (taking out the tree and placing yours). Try to go to the bottom lane, so you will be able to protect all the lanes. If the enemies gank top, you will see, if they are going to gank you, just use Nature's Guise.
Placed your tree, is time to rock! There is not too much you can do early game unless land some hits on your opponent and last hit/deny creeps. The creeps won't damage you too much and your base damage is very high, so you can harass the most of the heroes easily. This is an important preparation until level 6, where you get your only killing skill. ALWAYS wait for the right moment to ult. Do this when your opponent is under your tower or he's low on HP and close to you (or when you're absolutly sure that you will get the kill). There's no point on use your ult early game to don't score the kill. It spends a lot of mana and with an ally the kill is granted. If you are having a hard time on your lane, go to another one and ult there (mainly a lane with more than one opponent, so you can harass both =D). Keep farming till you can buy your core. Always go help your allies if your ult is ready and there's no point on using it on your lane.
When you get around level 5, your Eyes cooldown will probably be finished. Use it on a tree in the jungle next to you, so you'll be able to predict ganks on you as well.
Now you probably have nice items and some Eyes on the entire map (map hax!), you and your team are protected from ganks and you have enough mana to make everyone inv to perform perfect ganks. For now, they probably won't counter your inv, so abuse of it and make them spend money with Dusts/Gems/Wards. The rest depends of the build that you went for. If you choose DPS build, do your job. Go on team fights and score as many kills as you can. Your AoE damage is really significant, but you lack on chasing abilities, so you probably will want an ally to go with you. Try to support with invisibles as well. Your mana won't last so much, so just try to use it wisely. If you went for support way, Necrobuddies will give you a nice help to your team, just try to focus your attacks on the most mana dependent enemy hero. Double Overgrowth will probably wipe out the enemy team with your teams help.
At this part of the game you'll be probably one of the most feared hero of the game. Independent of the way you choose (this word is not right...), you'll be a powerhouse. For supporters, Double ult + double Shivas + Necrobuddies will provide like 14 seconds to highly damage your enemies and keep them stucked, plus your team will be almost unkillable (just like you) thanks to your support spells. For DPSers, Radiance + Assault + Double ult turns you a DPSer machine, and probably you can remove from battle a single target by yourself.
There is not much I can help you here, your DotA abilities will define the rest of the game, the max I can do is provide some more useful information on specific scenarios. If you guys miss something, please let me know.
Feared Enemies and Valuable Allies
I'm not putting single heroes here because there are A LOT of them, so I'll be just doing a general comment, and you use your DotA experience to tell you those who can fit each part.
These are the heroes that pisses you off, break a lot of trees, avoid your ultimate or "mark" you. On this category, we have all those with Wind Walk/Invisibility, such as Rikimaru or Clinkz, or those that can escape from the vines, such as Mirana, or a Pudge hooking someone. On the tree breaking category, we can see the monstruous Tauren Chieftain with his insane AoE ultimate, Windrunner, Rexxar, and a lot of them. On marking side, we have Gondar or Slardar, who can make your Guise absolutly useless.
Treant does not have many feared heroes, the only ones I can remember for now are those which laughs of your ult or casting spells which makes your ult almost useless. Yurnero can use his tornado to break free from the vines, and Leviatan can stun everyone around protecting his team of free attacks. Also, One of the most support Treant-breaker is Magina, since it makes you spend your ultimate earlier or simple take your mana and you can't ult at all. Keep an eye on him.
Treant is a good synergy for all heroes I don't think there is someone special to put here.
Everyone says that Treant should never be played as DPSer, so why the hell there's DPS Treant information on your guide?
Treant is not a bad DPSer, he can easily over DPS all the Agi heroes of the game if you were able to farm pretty well, but the only thing that make it possible is his very high base damage. ALL his skills are made to support, so on serious games, you should play it as a supporter, but there are still players who enjoy playing DPS Treants, mainly on pub games, and this is the reason I put DPS information on. More information is never too much, so please, don't complain about it, it's a useful information for a lot of players.
How much mana do I need to Refresh and when I'll be able to do it?
You need 750 mana to double ult.
If you followed this guide and got 3 Stats points at lv16, the minimum items that you'll need are 2 Null Talismans, and you will run out of mana after ulting, but thanks to Refresher, you can regen it fast:
Why there's a Refresher the aftercore of DPS build?
You already have a 5 seconds big AoE entangle, which contributes A LOT to the team, and there's no item that can substitute it. Refresher is by far the best item for Treant, and there's absolutely no reason for not getting it. And if you think that you won't have enough mana, there you go:
Of course you can't Refresh at low levels, you won't even have enough money to make a Refresher soon with DPS items above.
Where are the screenshots!? Eye placing guide!?
I'm trying to find time (and patience) to do it. Don't rush me, someday I'll do it =p
Why not Mask of Madness for DPS Treant?? It's more than a core to me!
It's an ok item, but I personally don't like it. While it's a great item for Void, who can perma bash or cast Chronosphere to be safe from the bonus damage that you'll receive, Treant doesn't have any defensive mechanism which prevents the enemies from taking down his health. Even under Overgrowth effect, you can still be hitted/incapacitate by magics, turning MoM a item that only helps taking down your HP faster. If you bonus IAS, buy a Hiperstone. If you want lifesteal, make a Satanic.
Sorry guys, no replays... I'm working on a nice replay for ya
Thanks all for reading (or not), and please comment. I will appreciate every (constructive) opinion/critic If you dind't agree with something I wrote, or would like to add something, please let me know.
Also, thanks for all the comments I got. They REALLY helped me improving the guide and I really appreciate that.